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Last Post 12/08/2008 10:20 AM by h2so4hurts. 18 Replies.
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11/23/2008 06:25 PM  
Can someone look at my most recent parameters.  Right now I am using Instant Oceans salt and finishing what little I have left then I am changing over the Reef Crystals.Â

I would like some ideas and help on keeping everything should be...  will changing to RC bring my calcium and mag up?

If you see some problem let me know.

I have bought some new test kits (API for everything but PH, Mag and Alk those three are RedSea) and I am now keeping track of everything much more closely and documenting everything.   

Here they are (cut and paste from excel):
Date Tested  Recommended11/23/2008
Calcium (ppm)380-450 ppm300
Alkalinity (meq/L)2.5-42.0
Salinity (sg)1.0261.025
Temperature (F)76-8381.7
pH8.1-8.38.4
Magnesium (ppm)1250-1350 ppm1100
Phosphates (ppm)< 0.03 ppm0.00
Ammonia (ppm)< 0.01 ppm0.00
Nitrate (ppm)< 0.02 ppm0.00
Nitrite (ppm)< 0.02 ppm0.00
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11/23/2008 06:29 PM  
Reef Crystals will make your mag and calcium go up.   Other than that it's about the same as I/O.

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11/23/2008 06:58 PM  
You should consider dosing 2 part solution. Those Cal/Alk readings are really low. Mag needs to be raised too.

Be careful when dosing because you're PH is already high.

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11/23/2008 07:00 PM  
You might want to try topping off with limewater to get the calcium and alkalinity up. It depends to on what you keep in your tank. If it's just softies and zoanthids, the calcium isn't as important. I use RC and really, I didn't notice a huge difference in my calcium levels after I switched.

Yes, be careful if you use limewater, as it can raise your pH......
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11/23/2008 08:22 PM  
There are two different two part dosing recipes. One increases your pH slightly and the other lowers it slightly. Pick the one that works best in your situation. Probably the one that lowers it
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11/23/2008 09:16 PM  
The dosing is where I am getting lost - just don't know where to start. The October meeting really helped, now that I have working test kits I have something to work with.
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11/23/2008 09:41 PM  
Here is your additive bible...

Use the Chemestry calculator on this page to determine doeses and everything for your exact supplements...

http://reef.diesyst.com/flashcalc/flashcalc.html


Get alkalinity and Calcium in the red box and the Magnesium in the zone below it...
I wouldnt worry about pH as long as those 3 are in balance.

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11/23/2008 10:12 PM  
Posted By einsteins on 11/23/2008 07:41 PM
Here is your additive bible...

Use the Chemestry calculator on this page to determine doeses and everything for your exact supplements...

http://reef.diesyst.com/flashcalc/flashcalc.html


Get alkalinity and Calcium in the red box and the Magnesium in the zone below it...
I wouldnt worry about pH as long as those 3 are in balance.

eins


Wow - Huh, I have done lots of reading and looked over that site as well tonight.  My eyes are buggin out from tonight's reading so I will have to give everything a look over tomorrow its seems overwhelming.Â

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11/23/2008 10:43 PM  
The biggest thing is not to change things drastically. Bring up your Ca/Alk/Mg levels slowly over about a weeks time, not all at once. I also think that your PH of 8.4 is possibly inaccurate with that low of an alkalinity...unless you are topping off with limewater already. I would also suggest bringing down the temp to about 78-79.

You'll get it, it takes time. It is overwhelming at first.
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11/24/2008 07:30 AM  
Posted By lee on 11/23/2008 08:43 PM
The biggest thing is not to change things drastically. Bring up your Ca/Alk/Mg levels slowly over about a weeks time, not all at once. I also think that your PH of 8.4 is possibly inaccurate with that low of an alkalinity...unless you are topping off with limewater already. I would also suggest bringing down the temp to about 78-79.

You'll get it, it takes time. It is overwhelming at first.


I just installed two new heaters and I am working on getting the adjusted down a little more.   No I am not topping with limewater, I will retest tonight and see what I get.
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11/24/2008 05:08 PM  
Using the 'calculator', seems there are a 100 different options to correct my calcium and mag. 
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11/25/2008 07:35 AM  
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11/25/2008 03:02 PM  
Actually you enter your current parameters....then below that you enter your desired parameter, then below that you select the product that you want to use to raise the parameter to the desired number you put in.

Then at the bottom of the calculator you click on the appropriate SUBMIT button and a second window opens up with the amount of the selected product needed to raise your tank to the Desired level.

Hope that clarifies it for you...

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12/06/2008 04:49 PM  
Excuse me for being so stupid....

OK, now I have ton tons of reading. Seems that I need a way to dose... in the form of a dosing pump for best results correct?

I do not have a dosing pump as of yet, that said is there a way I can use just the top off water say every 2-3 days and also add whats needed at the same time? reading on various message boards Limewater comes to mind- Maybe I am way off here!?!?
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12/06/2008 04:49 PM  
Excuse me for being so stupid....

OK, now I have ton tons of reading. Seems that I need a way to dose... in the form of a dosing pump for best results correct?

I do not have a dosing pump as of yet, that said is there a way I can use just the top off water say every 2-3 days and also add whats needed at the same time? reading on various message boards Limewater comes to mind- Maybe I am way off here!?!?
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12/06/2008 04:57 PM  
A drip line will work. Just tie knots in some airline tubing until you get the drip you want. Dosing pumps are $$$. Check your mixed water before throwing it in. You might have a bad batch of Crystals. I have had 2 where the calcium was 300, and the mag was super low too. Good news is that you can get a new bucket if it is bad.
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12/07/2008 10:31 AM  
Hey whats up! Give me a call and come over, I have a ton of IV drip bags! Also I have 2part that you can try out. Dave
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12/07/2008 05:27 PM  
Posted By billbigsbe1 on 12/07/2008 08:31 AM
Hey whats up! Give me a call and come over, I have a ton of IV drip bags! Also I have 2part that you can try out. Dave
This is kind of a busy week, for me.  I would like to stop by sometime maybe later in the week?  Is that possible? Â

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12/08/2008 10:20 AM  
Yes, IVs work great. I got a ton from a medical supply place for cheap. You could also spend 5x as much on a Kent Auqa dose, or 10x as much on a set of dosing pumps.
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