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Advice on R/O units

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Kylie, Nov 20, 2009.

  1. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    So, I'm planning a 40g breeder upgrade and along with it, I'm wondering if I should get an R/O system. I know nothing about them though and was wondering if anybody could clue me into how they work, how to set one up, etc.. I am moving into my first apartment this summer/coming fall and would keep that residence until I graduate from Iowa in 2012. Then I would be moving to Ames for four years.. First, is that too much moving that it would be hard to keep an R/O system with me?
    Second, how do these systems hook up to a sink? I've only seen when people have a separate spout for the R/O water coming from their sink but I'm sure I won't have that nor would I be able to install one into the apartment sinks.
    Third, are any of these brands good for R/O units? I got a $50 gift card from Frag Fest and would want to use that towards an R/O unit if I decided to get one but I'm limited on what brands are available.
    Here are links to the R/O systems saltwaterfish.com has:
    1)
    http://www.saltwaterfish.com/site_1...arent_id=6
    or
    http://www.saltwaterfish.com/site_1...arent_id=6
    both of those are the same brand but a little bit different make. Any info on what makes one better than the other would be nice
    2)
    http://www.saltwaterfish.com/site_1...arent_id=6
    or
    http://www.saltwaterfish.com/site_1...arent_id=6
    again, both the same brand but different make.
    So are either of these brands good? Is this something I should consider getting for my fish? (right now I get R/O water from the grocery store) Do you have any information for me about anything at all?
    I had been thinking about this and thought having an R/O system of my own would make topping off so much easier. Right now, I pretty much can't unless I go to the grocery store multiple times a week which is difficult since I don't have a vehicle or anything and can't carry two 5 gallon jugs by myself to and from the bus.
    Any thoughts?
    Thanks,
    Kylie
     
  2. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    Or is something like this going to work just as well? This seems to have everything I would need (then again, I still know nothing so I could be wrong).

    http://cgi.ebay.com/REVERSE-OSMOSIS-DRINKING-WATER-FILTER-SYSTEM-FOR-HOUSE_W0QQitemZ120494711452QQcmdZViewItemQQptZSmall_Kitchen_Appliances_US?hash=item1c0e0b629c
     
  3. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    The main thing to remember about RO units is to move them with water in them so that your membrane does not dry out.  If you know you're going to be moving around, pick up a few extra valves for it (three - one for water in, one for clean water our and one for waste water out) and you can just turn them off and disconnect them when you move.   It depends on how you're going to do your water production on how you hook it up.  You can buy attachments that allow you to hook it right up to your sink faucet.  In an apartment, you need to figure out how to hook it up without modifying the plumbing.  In that case, you could put a float valve on a 5 gallon bucket and attach that to your clean water out line.  Then get a faucet adapter to attach to your water in line.  Finally, just get put your waste water out line into the sink, maybe rig up a magnetic holder, assuming steel sink, to keep the waste water line in the sink.  Then it will fill until the 5 gallon bucket is filled up and automatically turn itself off.  If 5 gallons is not enough, you can have multiple 5 gallon buckets hooked up the same way, just T off the line.  Get some extra on/off valves and you're set.  That would be totally portable system that would not require modifying your plumbing.
    Here's another option to think about...sell your saltwaterfish.com gift card on the forums and buy something like this:  http://www.airwaterice.com/product/1COMPACT/Compact_75_GPD_Reefkeeper_RODI.html   It's a 5 stage unit for $140.  If you call them and explain what additional connectors you're needing, I'm sure they can work with you on customizing what comes with it.  Also, club members get a 10% discount.  There's another promo where you can get a free set of filters (for when it comes time to change them) instead of the 10% discount so you can choose which promo is better for you.  For $10 more, you can get a 100 GPD unit.  http://www.airwaterice.com/product/1TYPHOO/Typhoon_5_stage_RODI_Reefkeeper_75_GPD.html
    Anyway, that's what I would do.  I hope that helps.
    --AJ
     
  4. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    The eBay option does not include a DI stage.

    --AJ
     
  5. Gered

    Gered Experienced Reefkeeper

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    If you are interested in ordering from Air, Water and Ice get a hold of me. I can help you get a good price. I am currently running the 5 stage unit AJ posted about and have no complaints. Very nice quality unit!
     
  6. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    Ok. That sounds like a good plan with the multiple buckets. Do you guys happen to know any good sites that explain how R/O systems work so I can understand this a little better? That would be awesome.

    Thank you guys for helping out so much so far! You rock!
     
  7. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    Quick question also. When it says 75gpd, does that mean, if I had enough buckets hooked up, that I could make a maximum of 75 gallons of R/O water if I let it run a whole day? (that seems right but I dont' want to make any mistakes in this)
     
  8. Gered

    Gered Experienced Reefkeeper

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  9. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    Thank you.
     
  10. Bela

    Bela Inactive User

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    Just putting in my 2 cents here... you can "modify" the plumbing in your apartment if it is NOT all welded (ie it is all screwed together). There are fitting for that (wish I knew what they were called). The only reason I know they existed was because it came with mine when I bought my typhoon III used on eBay. It is sort of like a T fitting. IMO much more convenient "set it and forget it" than something for the faucet.
     
  11. agent-o2

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    or if your apartment has hookups for washer and drier, I've got mine plumbed in there with a y hose fitting to hook both the RO/DI and washer up.
     
  12. Guest

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    what I'll be doing.
     
  13. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    That would be really awesome and convinient but I can't an afford an apartment with a washer and dryer except for public ones. I think the faucet adapter will work the best for me. That way I don't mess something up and lose my deposit and I can transport it when necessary. Is there anything else I should know about that bucket/faucet setup? Other than the sink adapter, float valves, extra tubing, and T for multiple buckets, are there any other pieces I would need to get or does everything I need come with the R/O system?

    Ooo so curious question.. Can the water going into the RO/DI system be any temperature? That would make water changes go that much smoother and faster if I could set the temperature to what I want.

    Thanks again so much everyone :eek:)
     
  14. Gered

    Gered Experienced Reefkeeper

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    About the water temp. If the water is too hot it can burn up the membrane and ruin it. If the water is cold it just takes the efficiency down of the RO unit and your production will be slow. I have heard of people in winter months having it take forever to make RO water.
     
  15. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    So if I'm hooking up to my faucet, I'll want a good medium temperature water? Not too hot but not freezing cold for optimum RO production
     
  16. Gered

    Gered Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Correct. I believe the faucet adaptors have a bypass to let water flow out so if you want to use the sink at the same time. What you can do is let it bypass in to a cup or something and check the temps. I am not sure off the top of my head what the recommended temp is but most RO instructions will tell you.
     
  17. rc1214b

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    Most ratings from manufacturers are based at 75-76 I believe, so anything in that range would be fine
     
  18. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    Does anyone have any concern about the higher likelihood of mineral deposits coming from the hot water heater if you use heated water? Just curious. I know many of us have our RO units plumbed directly into the cold water resulting in lower output. This would especially be the case in an apartment since I doubt any of the property management folks properly maintain their water heaters.

    --AJ
     
  19. rc1214b

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    I really doubt it's anything to worry about, the only real drawback would be burning through filters faster if there is a higher tds. I've used the sink method for years.
     
  20. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    So the only filter that would be impacted would be your sediment filter, right? Good to know. Thanks!

    --AJ
     

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