anybody raise pitbulls

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What kind of status symbol are you trying to project? I don't know I can't read minds but look at the culture surrounding pits and you tell me. You can say anything you would like. Fact is fact they have proven unworhty of the respect you think they deserve. And to compare a child like that? Sad comparison. Some children are just bad kids, same with dogs. Maybe it's a mental disorder or something, but I think we have all known a kid, either growing up or going to school with our kids, that was just no good. It happens. Seems to happen alot with pits. As far as sitting down and talking with them. Works good with kids, sometimes, but I don't believe in that dog whisperer crap. Never had a conversation that my dog has started with me. Like someone above said, if you want a predator stick with fish, they are really cool and won't attack random dogs or people. No reason to get mad, like I said this is the way they are percieved. If you can't deal with that maybe you should keep your opinions to yourself, instead of getting all wound up. This is reality, just ask Michael Vick what kind of dogs he used for fighting.

 

Haha yeah ask Vic how many of his "fighting dogs" were adopted or fostered out to homes only 4 dogs out of 50 were put down and that's pretty damn good odds if u ask me and every single one of those dogs were born and raised for fighting and they were easily adopted out. You tell me not to get angry about this but when someone asks about them in a good way just wanting to talk and all you others come in talking shot about them then u tell me not to get angry, that's like me going and talking crap about ur kids or your wife or family member and me telling you not to get angry about it.. And you try to say I'm in the wrong??

 

If u can't even go to that website and click on the true pitbull picture after studying them all for a few minutes then u were wrong 99% of the time so what's to say the person making the claim about the attack was also wrong and it truly wasn't a pit but some breed that looked like a pit so in reallity 99% of the "claimed" pitbull attacks were truly not pitbulls u get to study the pictures as long as u want the person that saw the attack gets to see the dog for a few seconds and just guesses it was a pit because it closely resembled the same traits as pitbulls

 

I don't care who you are and I don't care if it's one person or 10.000 people if you stick your nose in a conversation that had nothing to do with you and start talking crap when the conversation was supposed to be a positive conversation I'm going to get pissed and I'm going to stand up for what I believe in and you might call it childish but take a good long hard look in the mirror and see who started the conversation going down hill when it was not pointing that way to begin with, I call that childish and immature. Damn I hate it when Im right.

 

I tried to stay out of this topic that seemingly instantly became controversial, but I figured I would put in my two cents.

First, the way a dog is treated is only part of how it may act in the future. By no means have all dogs (regardless of breed) that end up attacking humans been abused, mistreated, or given any other "reason" to become incredibly aggressive. Anyone that claims this is just flat out wrong.

It is true that pits have a bad reputation. A lot of this is due to bad breeding habits, poor seedstock, etc. A good and reputable breeder does produce wonderful animals that are as sweet as pie. The trouble is that breeding dogs PROPERLY and profit don't go hand in hand. Breeders selling dogs for a couple hundred bucks likely do not have papers, and have been cutting corners everywhere they can. Most decent breeders (of any breed of dog) are, or have been, connected to the show ring. If you are grabbing pups from some guy's back yard being housed in a pen with a dirt floor, they are probably not giving you high quality animals.

In cases where pits attack and kill there is good documentation of the breed, etc. It is people that know what they are doing that are identifying the animal. Assuming the offending animals has veterinary records, that is also a pretty easy way for the laymen judge/jury to understand what the breed of dog was. Sadly, a lot of these animals were bred to fight. This goes back to seedstock. If you are getting seedstock from fighting dogs, you are way more likely to produce dogs with the same fighting tendencies. Buying a pitbull does not mean you are placing anyone at any larger risk than buying any other dog (comparable in size/stature) so long as you have done your research.

Anyone that knows me, even a little bit, knows that I am not talking out my *** here. Apologies if I have only helped to fuel the fire, but I felt this needed to be said.

 

Now I'm confused...
How does one know if a topic posted in the general area is directed to them or not?  If it is directed to only certain people, perhaps a PM would more appropriate.
And speaking of nothing to do with us, this is an aquarium site, not Greater Iowa Pitbull Society.

 

Sharpy I think u need to change ur name read the topic heading and scroll around the website this isn't just a FISH ONLY site and bela my vet of 4 years classifies my 4 year old pit as a bulldog so vet papers arnt always correct

 

i have a viscious bulldog and I blame the owner (my wife). I also have seen my neighbor attacked by a squirrel AND a chipmunk with a homemade pair of crutches made from toothpicks!! Dang!

 

You have to watch out for squirrels they go straight for the nuts everytime. They're alqays hanging out in my walnut tree. And yeah this thread could have gone a whole different direction, but that's the way it went. Obviously this topic is a heated one on all sides.

 

yah, the "sweeetest pitbull ever", has my brother-in-law serving a 99 year sentence. Someone was arguing with him and the dog attacked the man, but he was able to grab it by the collar and hold it up away from his body. This hurt the tough guy image real bad and required fatal retribution. The pit bull later was under the care of mother-in-law, and killed her half dozen cats. It eventually was shot after the neighbor had to break her jaw with an axe to get it separated from his goat. Both owners of this dog claimed she was the sweetest thing and would insist that she would be great with my kids. No thanks.
I will say, that I am a dog lover and that my dog is actually in protection training right now. He is not aggressive, and the right training makes him less susceptible to bite under stress because he is more sure of himself. I don't want him tough or anything, he just really enjoys it, its good obedience practice and it is just a game to him.

 

Certainly mistakes are made. But are we implying here, then, that mistakes are made in identifying these breeds in the majority of situations? That's an innacurate statement to make, at best. There is a reason the pitbull has such a bad reputation. Statistically they are more prone to unwarranted aggression. That is all I am saying here.
For the record I am not even sure I should have responded here. I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing with you, just adding my own knowledge of the subject, which I can say I have more of than the "average Joe" yet you have still chosen to be offensive here.

 

OK here is some more info on my running experiences with dogs.
for the last 20 years I have run with Huskies any where from only 10 miles up to 60 moles in a week.
other dogs I have had issues with have been Labs, Shepard and Collies
they have never attacked my dogs while running they have come out and growled and would run with us.
this was usually at there owners dis pleasure and would only stay with us for up to 500 feet then they would return home I hope that is what they did.
only on 2 occasions have I had dogs run miles with us. as long as we keep going there was no issue.

no pit bulls aren't the only dog I dislike
the small foot long 1/2 foot tall ankle bitters I dislike tremendously
have had at least on 10 occasions had them leave a front yard and come after us.
they always try to to nip at my dogs legs.
I remember about 15 years ago my dogs killed one of those after it left a ladies front yard and ran across a street and bit at my dog on the leg.
they scoped it up shook it and threw it down.
it went yipping back home.
I stopped while coming back home to talk to the police man that was there.
had to get him my rabies certificate tell my side of storie.
so there are other dogs I do not like