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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by dead fish, Aug 7, 2012.

  1. dead fish Dead Fish

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    So I got a powder brown tang a little more than a week ago. I've been feeding him and he's been eating like a horse. He's got a great personality and lots of energy. Yesterday I noticed he was a little icky. I have a cleaner shrimp in there, but my cleaner wrasse died the day I bought him (the LFS is replacing him tomorrow).

    I mean, is this ick, an injury of some kind. I really want to keep this fish. He's quickly become my favorite.

    If it is ick, what are my options besides setting up a hospital tank. I really don't have anything that will serve as one and I'm tapped out after spending a bunch on lights and a skimmer. Garlic? non-reef killing meds?

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    Here's a pic of that side before the lesion.

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  2. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    I don't see anything in the picture that indicates Ich. Ich will show up on sides, but it really like the fins. I wouldn't do anything just yet other then what you are doing. I looks to me that he may just have banged his self some where getting use to the tank. Don't panic and just keep an eye on him. Most of the time we panic and over think things. It is new and may take some time to get to know your tank. My Hippo tang had these leasions on it side from time to time the first 3 weeks it was in my tank.

    Look like a very cool fish..

    Wish I had a bigger tank.. /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/sad.gif lol
     
  3. fishyness

    fishyness Inactive User

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    I agree with Kpotter. I've seen a spot like that when raising salinity from hypo. My guess is this fish was in low salinity and you added him to your tank with normal SG. I wouldn't do anything, just watch him./DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/smile.gif good luck.
     
  4. dead fish Dead Fish

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    THanks, guys. That's the plan for now. He had a little white flecking yesterday, but that's cleared up toay save that one spot. I really do like him. Want to keep him around.
     
  5. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    Remember that your sand can get kicked up on to your fish and look like Ich. This happen to me when I got my Pistol shrimp.

     
  6. MJB Tanks Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    He's beautiful...I miss my powder brown /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/sad.gif
     
  7. ninjazx777 Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Powder Brown tangs, powder blue tangs, and Achilles tangs are ick magnets any stress at all will cause a break out most of the time if your tank is healthy they will recover if you remove whatever is stressing the tang out. however I didn't see any sign of JVM in those pictures. so I recommend the old wait and see and hope for the best cure
     
  8. dead fish Dead Fish

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    Looking at his fins, there is some fuzzy white stuff on each. Not sand for sure. I've been in and out of the tank as I get it set up. There's a niger trigger in there but he's smailler and the PBT and he worked out the territory thing last Monday when I put the PBT in there. Since then they have been cool with each other. So I don't see any fish-related stressors. Once I get the new cleaner wrasse in there I'm gonna leave everything alone and let everyting settle.

    I got some chromos when I got the cleaner wrasse. Two of them died too. Water params are all good. Not sure what's up.
     
  9. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    Where are you buying your fish? If its fuzzy stuff on it then for sure its not ich.
     
  10. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    Where are you buying your fish? If its fuzzy stuff on it then for sure its not ich.
     
  11. dead fish Dead Fish

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    I got him at Coralville Bay.
     
  12. Tickyty

    Tickyty Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I had something similiar happen to my Hippo when I first put him in the tank. At that point I decided to cure this concern once and for all. I removed my fish, only 4 at the time, and let the tank go fallow for 72 days. I set up a QT and before I introduce any new fish it is QT'd and treated with copper just to make sure my DT will no longer have an ich problem. It was an extreme but I don't worry about introducing bad things into the DT. I know not everyone has the ability to do this but it is the safest route I know of. I was hard headed for 14 years, wanting to see my new speicmens in my DT immediately but I have discovered if it is worth having it is worth waiting for. I refused to let that $65 fish die on mye this time. Just my 2 cents.
     
  13. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    Sorry to say it, but I am not fond of that store. I do shop there and buy supply's, but not a lot of livestock. That is all I will say and its my own opinion on this. I trust Petco and Sea of Marvel in this area, but if I see something some where else I spend the time to look at it and other tanks in the system. I know that is not 100%, but I make my peace with it if I have problems. /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif
     
  14. dead fish Dead Fish

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    I've had mixed results with all the stores in town. I just started going to CVB and I will say that it's the most well stocked of anywhere in town when it comes to supplies by far. And I've liked talking to Ed the several times I've been in there.

    I went to SoM once and for a while I wasn't even sure anyone worked there. It was a weird, uncomfortable experience. They had some nice stuff, but the overall vibe made me really uncomfortable.
     
  15. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    I am sorry that SOM made you feel that way. Hung is great and use my name and let him know you know me. It may break the ice.
    Hung is used to people asking him questions and he is very helpful.

    Ed is a great guy. Like i said i will always pick up supplys i need from him.
     
  16. Andy The Reef Guy

    Andy The Reef Guy Inactive User

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    what youre lookingat is either cryptoboidosis or monogeans. Either is an irritating ecoparasite that stimulates the over production of slime membrane. Long term it will cause emaciation, chronic stress, and death. You should probably pull him and treat him in a 30 gallon + hospital tank. Hypo salinity or formalin baths will improve the condition. Good luck. I'm working on an ill fish too.
     
  17. dead fish Dead Fish

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    Andy, is that my only option? Really don't have the $$ to set up a hospital tank right now. Are there in-tank ways to treat? I've had a couple fish show a little icky-ness when I first put them in the tank but then they got better, or at least stopped showing signs of it.

    I will say he looks much better now. The lesion is healing/almost healed. He still has the white on his side fins, though.

    Oh and Kyle, I don't think Hung was there when I went in to SoM. I was in the store for about 5 minutes before I saw anyone and then there was a younger fella who came out but didn't approach me. I wasn't sure if he was working there or not. It was the middle of a Friday and I was the only person in there. Not a big deal. A little while later a woman came out and asked if I needed help.

    Thanks for the help everyone.


     
  18. Pete H.

    Pete H. Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    A hospital and/or a quarantine tank are really not expensive for fish. You just need a tank, a basic mechanical filter, a heater, a couple of pieces of PVC for hiding and maybe a small power head for more flow. You don't put rock, skimmers, fancy lights, etc for that. In fact the only light I use over mine is the basic room light. Nothing specific for the tank. Most fish don't need it. So, I got my set up for like $20 when I found someone selling an old freshwater tank on Craigslist. Even if you got it all new, you could do it for less than $100 for a nice small hospital set up.

    Best of luck with the fish. Glad he is looking better.
     
  19. dead fish Dead Fish

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    I guess I do have all those things accept the tank. I wonder, though, should i wait a bit and see if he improves more. From what I've read (and has been suggested here) if he does have ich then the tank has it and to get rid of it I'd have to shut down the tank, which I'm not going to do.
     
  20. Pete H.

    Pete H. Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Yeah, I would ride it out and see how he changes. I would just look for a killer deal on a used tank or for the petco $1 per gallon sale. Then you can pick up a tank for possible future needs. /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/wink.gif
     

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