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Chemistry question and an Oops story

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ruggerkc, Jul 6, 2009.

  1. ruggerkc Experienced Reefkeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

    North Liberty , IA
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    Yesterday I tested my water and as allways the alk is low = 7. So a bit frustrated I just dumped some 2 part with out measuring, it was more than I intended but it never seems to do anything anyway so I didn't worry too much. I did notice it making a little cload in the sump. Fast forward an hour or two, I come down to see the display tank really clloudy. I can't see half way to the back, its 20" front ot back. I freak out a bit, test the water and the alk is 11. I figured the damage is done, by the time I get a water change it wont matter any way. Checked  on it again last night it had cleared up and all the corals had as much if not more polyp ext. as ever and  the fish looked happy. Tested the water twice this morning alk = 7 - 8 ? Why does it not stay up? [​IMG]
    Ca 420
    Mg 1400
    ph 8.1 or 8.2
     
  2. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

    La Porte City, IA
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    I dont think 7-8 is that bad.

    Here is a little exeprt I copied from a Farly acticle on it.

    Alkalinity2 (due to bicarbonate and carbonate but not borate, so those using Seachem salt must raise this value substantially to accommodate the borate being counted in standard alkalinity tests)

    2.5 - 4 meq/L or 7 - 11 dKH or 125 - 200 ppm CaCO3 equivalents

    Calcium:

    380 – 450 ppm calcium ion or 950 - 1125 ppm CaCO3 equivalents





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  3. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

    La Porte City, IA
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    If anything you can start dosing with Kalk. That will raise both your alk & calc & help keep your PH up.

     
  4. Waverz

    Waverz Expert Reefkeeper

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    The cloudiness was participitate, you basically added more alk than your water could absorb.
    Are you measuring dKH or meq/l, if your reading 7 meq/l that is like 20dkh which is WAY high.


    Also what test kit are you using? Is it old? Are you sure your doing it right?



     
  5. ruggerkc Experienced Reefkeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

    North Liberty , IA
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    Its an api test kit it measures dkh. I think I got it in january. I would no tbe suprised if I am doing something wrong, but this one is really simple.
     
  6. Waverz

    Waverz Expert Reefkeeper

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    Hmm you could try bumping you CA up to around 450 then see if you can get your KH up.
     
  7. ruggerkc Experienced Reefkeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

    North Liberty , IA
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    the more I tihink about it Test kit error makes the most sense. I will have some one else test it.
     
  8. Waverz

    Waverz Expert Reefkeeper

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    I can test it if you want to bring me a sample.
     

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