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Discussion invitation: Osmoregulation!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by jazzybio13, Feb 11, 2014.

  1. jazzybio13 MBI Breeder

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    Ok, I'd love to see some healthy lively (respectful) debate and or just good discussions on here. So, I thought we could just name a subject and put it out there. Osmoregulation! Specifically how this relates with our aquatic friends ability to do so within a home aquarium. So, to start the subject off I thought of a few key questions that the conversation could revolve around.





    1- Where do you keep your salinity at and for what type tank. (ie reef at 1.026, fowlr at 1.023, etc.)


    2- How large of a swing has your fish tank taken a hit on? who fared well, who did not? (ie fish did well with large swings, sps corals did not, softies did...etc.)


    3- And lastly how do you control salt swings in your own tank? (ie, manual top offs, ATO's, etc.) and possibly throw an idea out there for your own system that you might like advice on?





    I'm sure if several people could pipe in, any new folks who stubble across this could take something from it! /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/biggrin.gif
     
  2. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

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    This is the type of discussions that our Reefer's Q&A section is kind of aimed for, but I don't think many people know about it. Its been seeing significantly less action since the first few months it got rolled out. But nothing wrong with trying to get a little discussion topic on the forums.


    1.) 1.025-1.026 is where I try to maintain it...by try and maintain I mean hope its at that level on the rare occasion I actually check it. /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/blush.gif Its a 250 gallon mixed reef tank. Including sump I'm probably about 300 gallons total water volume.


    2.) Due to water volume and a couple of ATO failsafes programmed in I have never had anything that I would consider a big swing. Over time, probably mostly due to salt creep it will start sneaking under 1.025. But always a very slow change.


    3.)My main control of swings is my ato run by my apex. It consists of a 50mL/min BRS dosing pump and a float switch. The ATO pump is set to run on an OSC function. And I calculated it out so it runs the pump just a little bit longer than it takes to compensate for evaporation. I think its around 10 minutes every hour. The float switch is a high level sensor so it will shut the pump off when it gets to the full level. I have had the float switch stick, and the return section does slowly rise, but not more than probably 1/2" day. In my water volume that really does nothing to the salinity level.


    When I do need to adjust the salinity I just mix it up a little higher when I do a water change.



     
  3. jazzybio13 MBI Breeder

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    Thanks blackx-runner, I didn't even recall that section to be honest! But your right that would be an appropriate section for this.


    I run my broodstock tanks salinity at 1.024 and let it creep to 1.026 then water change with salt at 1.022 to make it come down to about 1.24-25 ish. Never too worried about this systems swings because they're all happy and spawn regularly in this... plus no corals to watch out for. And I run a giant chamber of k1 media I don't have to do water changes that often on it, so I let it creep up a bit. I find though that if left on it's own too much though it can swing more than that which I try to avoid.

    Reef tank is pretty well stable at 1.025 and a 30% water change at salt mixed up to 1.023 -1.024 every 2-3 weeks on it sets all parameters back to perfect. No ATO on this as systems small.

    Every other tank in the house has such frequent water changes (ie baby tanks and such) that salt levels don't matter much here either, as its set back to perfect then too.

    I did however in the beginning of my reefing days have many swings that I can recall... before really learning how to work with top offs and such.... (oh what experience and time as taught). I can recall the worst one was when I had a hydrometer crack on me without me knowing, and after many water changes and top offs I noticed it. I immediately replaced it and tested the water, it had spiked to 1.038!!!!! All the fish were fine, but all the hard corals were pissed for many many weeks afterwards, softies were closed and ended up shedding...but came out as it I slowly dropped it to 1.025 again. Everything started responding well again near 1.028 .
     

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