Solved Changed my mind

Good bye

 

...what?

 

That shows what the bod is alllllllllllllllll about that comment.

 

@xroads in your favorite screenshot form.
Heres what i posted in the bod.

 

If the bs I heard actually happen tonight, I will be taking my sponsorship elsewhere. Belittling, name calling, racial slurrs, ect...

 

I would like to say that the board was sorry to see this have to happen, it was based on years of documented problems. Documentation was pulled going back half a decade, a vote was taken and passed with a majority. I know there are rumors out there that are unfounded. Screen shots have been taken of private board member conversations and spread to the public as you can see from above posts. This is a problem that we find counter productive. In your work place if you leaked out information from a private meeting with your boss, it would be unethical and you would likely be reprimanded. We are trying to have GIRS be a positive place where everyone feels welcome, we encourage hands on participation and welcome everyone. We feel our actions will lead to GIRS being a place where people who put in a lot of volunteer time will feel good about what they have worked hard on and will look forward to helping out with friendly people with an I can do it attitude. In the past the GIRS I can do it attitude is what made MACNA happen in Des Moines. We are willing to work hard and explore new possibilities for the club, one where everyone is welcome.

 

I liked the club and always have enjoyed the functions it has put on. I am not to sure what happened between the BOD and Armydog in the past and I don't care. However I do not want to be part of a club that has to get the little digs in as some of the comments I have seen written in the past 24 hours. I was going to keep my mouth shut and go on, as I thought this wasn't worth my time. Yet an election is an election and if someone wants to run for a position and paid up on their dues they should be allowed to run. This country will not stop a spoiled rotten man child and a untruthful woman run for the highest office in this country. Yet because of some past behavior as per Maureen stated a member is kicked out out the club and not allowed to run, not sure if Armydog could have won or not but never given a chance is not fair and not a club I want to be part of. I do know that Fishbrain was our trustee for a couple of months and he didn't like what he saw and stepped down (his choice) and another member took over. But a sharpe jab to that fact is uncalled for and should have been kept to ones self. I am not here to start anything just to get this off my mind. Also if this is the way we treat our Vets that defended the right for people's freedom of speech then you just offended a 25 year veteran of the military too. I will not be renewing my membership and I hope the club luck in the future.

 

Joe please note that prior to the vote to ban Armydog, Armydog went on each post he was nominated on and declined the nomination. Armydog pulled himself from running before the vote was ever taken. The vote had nothing to do with the elections.

 

On the post he did reject it and the next morning he excepted it. That is what I read and went off of, yet it still don't change my mind and I have never met or know Armydog.

 

I had no idea he had accepted the nomination after declining it, which goes to show you that it was not a part of the decision. I looked and I see you are right he came back on and changed his mind. What I can tell you is that prior to his changing the post it was in discussion on the board to stop the negative behavior. We were in discussion to ban Donny. I have an e mail with the exact time of Donny's post saying the process was going to start. There is no way the two could have been posted at the same time having knowledge that they were both sending at the same moment. We would not have known of Donny's intentions at the time this was started. How ever because of the screen shot you have seen in the above post it very well could have been known to Donny that we were in discussion, in consideration of banning him prior to his editing his post.

 

Joe as a veteran myself and not knowing the situation at hand. I have sat back and read the past few days. Personally I never would have guessed armydog was a veteran, or for that matter even over the age of 21.

Service members are taught to be faithful, loyal, honorable, trustworthy, and most of all dedicated. Some might say most humans are taught the same morals. So to say being a veteran has anything to do with this it outrageous.

If anything Armydog should have been held to a higher standard and given less slack in the maturity department.

I believe in expecting more from my fellow veterans than I do a civilian, but thats just how I was raised.

I am a new guy here, I take no sides, I don't know anyone. So take my comments how you will. Either way Armydog gave all veterans a bad name by causing so much drama.

Adults are adults act like it or deal with it like kids and find a parking lot. Either way keep the dirty laundry behind closed doors where it belongs.

 

Wow, what a shame to see all this happen. I don't know what exactly transpired, but sad to have happened at all. We all like fish and reef keeping - that is the entire point of the club and why we visit the site!

Sounds like things had been building up for a while. I do hope the club can survive and become better from it. Internet = drama, seems to happen at every site I know, even when the forums are just about hobbies. Sometimes it's handled better than others, and the visibility can be different, but I really do wish everyone I have met in this club the best no matter what happens.

 

Personally I am sorry to hear a member has been banned. I have been on the site for several years, and agree that there have been negative posts, arguments and attacks posted by certain people. One of the nice things about this club, is that it really is a community and contains all the elements found in every community. From the extremely knowledgeable, helpful people pleasers to assholes starting trouble, sometimes the individuals are one in the same depending on the day. This is the only online forum where I have actually had the opportunity to meet "screen names" in person and can say that at the fests, I have enjoyed talking to everybody, they seem to be fun and while there are people that may avoid each other, I have never felt uncomfortable.
Who is so offended that the board feels their only option is to ban people, or even discuss banning somebody? Threats of violence I can understand, but name calling, or creating drama?........... please, who cares?

When you exclude the BUy sell trade convos, there really are only a handful of people that reliably post on this site, even fewer post interesting things. The offenders typically are the posters who have name recognition because they post quite a bit, both good and bad. I did not see the thread that sparked this, but to see Army Dog banned, Bud getting out, Xroads has different priorities and Fishbrain is done is a catastrophic for this club and 70% of its value as a resource for hobbyists has been destroyed.
Over What? It must be really bad if the conversation has been stricken from the record.






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Sorry if it sounds like I am defending Armydogs actions whatever they were. I am defending the fact that as soon as a member was nominated for President and he did turn it down and then returned and excepted it that all of a sudden it was a quick process to ban that member. I don't think that he might have won the position as it sounds from other members because of his actions. However he should have been allowed to run and win or lose he had the chance. That is my point. Yes maybe being a grown up would have been a better choice for him.

 

Gosh I thought we were all her to talk fish and stuff