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dying coral

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Kylie, May 5, 2010.

  1. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    My tank (40g breeder) has been up and running now, with lights, fish and coral for about 4 weeks. I have been monitoring my parameters and went through a mini cycle about a week ago and have stayed consistently at 0 ammonia, 0 nitrite, and about 5 nitrate. I moved my two birdsnests up onto the rocks (from the sandbed) wednesday of last week. Both had been doing really good, with all of their polyps out and good color on their stems. I got home from work last night and noticed a good portion of my green birdsnest's flesh was gone towards the base. I woke up this morning to my green birdsnest missing almost all of its flesh. Now all that remains is the very tips, which keep getting covered in a little bit of cyano. All of my corals are doing great, if not improving even more over the past few days.

    I made sure that its location was nowhere near any fish resting spots or powerheads. It was at mid-level in my tank with medium flow under 2 150w MH with 2 36w T5 actinics.

    Any suggestions as to what could have happened? What I can do to avoid this in the future?
     
  2. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Sounds like RTN ( rapid tissue nacrosious ) And I don't believe that the exact cause is known.
    -Bill
     
  3. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    What has been your temp swing? How hot at the end of your daily light cycle and how cold? I had what I thought was RTN recently, and it turned out to be a malfunctioning heater that when combined with my lights, was getting things too hot and killing stuff....which in turn degrades the water quality and then other stuff starts to be impacted too. Fortunately, most things recovered well. And birdsnest does better in high flow areas (from what I've been told). Good luck.

    --AJ
     
  4. Eric Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Kylie-

    It's certainly too bad to hear that you're having issues as I know that you've been working hard on your tank for a while now. [​IMG]

    As Bill & AJ mentioned it may not be easy to determine the cause initially, but the common advice is to frag any parts of the green birdsnest that appear to still be healthy as RTN can rapidly overtake the entire specimen.
    -Eric
     
  5. Foo

    Foo Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    RTN In my experience is sudden shifts in alkalinity. Has your alk been stable? Shoot for 8-10 and don't over correct it if it on the low side. Here's a good read for you.
    http://web.archive.org/web/20021127040526/http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issues/nov2002/chem.htm
     
  6. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    Is it still helpful if only a few mm of the coral are left? There is a tiny portion toward the tip of each branch that still has some polyps out. I wouldn't know how to frag those so small without stripping the tissue with my fingers.
     
  7. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    Personally, I would get in touch with PotRoast and get a frag from him for a few bucks.  They are cheap and you wouldn't have to worry about growing something from such a tiny frag...which is not likely to survive at this point anyway.
    --AJ
     
  8. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    The sad part is, this one originally came from him /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/sad.gif I got this one along with a few others from him before I had the 40g
     
  9. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    Yeah, well, I've killed my fair share of corals too. It's a learning curve. You just try to figure out the cause and do better next time...at least that's what I try to do.

    --AJ
     
  10. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    Thanks. I'm trying my best. I seem to do well with everything else so far. My duncan is STILL extremely pissed at me from the change in lighting. I've had him in a shady spot now for a few days and he's coming out a little more. He got so angry from the MH I think it'll be a slow and long recovery, so any tips there would be great. Other than that, the only problems I have had was this green birdsnest. Even my zoo's who were close to dead from being run over by that brown goop have come back to life. My pinkish ones are bigger and happier than ever, the green ones I had thought were completely gone but I threw in the frag anyway and vwalaa, five new heads have shown up. I got a TINY little pink birdsnest frag for free once, maybe 1/2 and inch long and not mounted to anything. Mounted that to my rock last week and its already growing! New branches with little white tips everywhere /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif And I have a new head on my pink/turquoise trumpet /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/biggrin.gif Teehee, now i'm rambling. Reefing can get so exciting!! haha
     
  11. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    Duncans are very resilient...at least mine have been. They should come around. Try to target feed them a little to entice them to come out. Also, keep them in a low flow area or they won't "inflate" as much (is there a better term to use to describe this?).

    --AJ
     
  12. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    Yes, I tried to put them in the calmest place in the tank and its in the shadow of one of the rocks. Should I wait a little longer before feeding? I was told that at this point, the energy it takes to eat and digest some food could be more energy than he has. Could this be possible? Would it be ok/not harmful to wait a while longer?
     
  13. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    You know, I'm certainly no expert...but target feeding worked for me. Give it a shot and see if it gets better.

    --AJ
     
  14. Matt

    Matt Inactive User

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    My duncans love flow its crazy. I have two different styles or duncans, and I target feed mine all the time, mine will eat a 1/4 or silversides that I give it when I feed my Anemone. Thats odd about the lighting, I have mine under my LEDs and it loves it, the thing has grown crazy since I have brought it home, but I was feeding it once a day, and now I have slowed. Kylie get in touch with me through PM I know you wanted some coral, and I
    ll proablly frag some new stuff up this weekend.
     
  15. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    I'll try feeding him tonight. I'm going to get some rods food reef formula and try that out. Oh, and btw, Petland has Rods food now! WOOT!! And I'll be sure to pm you Matt, thanks!
     
  16. Reefdumb

    Reefdumb Inactive User

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    Kylie, how are the coral that were dying. If they still have some good flesh on them I wouldn't mind getting them from you to see if they might make it in my tank.
     
  17. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    So far, he's been holding stead since the last time I posted. He still has about five to 10 little polyps out now. I'm trying to keep the cyano from growing on him but I don't want to be too rough in chance of damaging the remaining tissue.
     

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