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Advice? External Pump

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Buku, Aug 14, 2015.

  1. Buku Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Ankeny, IA
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    I'm currently setting up a 90 gallon tank with sump. I have an external pump mounted on the side of the stand with PVC going to the return section of the sump. I thought I would do a test run and filled the return up with water then turned the pump on. It would not suck up the water I was hoping to not have to glue the PVC together in the case i needed to pull the pump. Just curious if the pump is sucking air where the PVC mounts together? Here are a couple of pictures of the set up.

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  2. jeremy Acro Addict

    Davenport, IA
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    Put in true union fitting so pump can easily be removed.
    Sounds like it is suckling air.
     
  3. jeremy Acro Addict

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  4. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    That pump is not designed to suck up, it is designed to push up.

    It needs to have the inlet below water level. You will need to drill a hole in the bottom of the sump and install a bulk head.

    A 90 degree turn on the inlet is also a no no. The pump really needs to have a straight shot into the water supply
     
  5. Roman Experienced Reefkeeper

    Cedar Rapids, IA
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    That pump needs to be mounted like this. I wasn't able to have a straight shot like I wanted because of stand limitations but I tried to keep the flow out of sump greater by using as big a pipe I could to keep pump fully fed with little restrictions.
     
  6. Drewster

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    Roman brings up a good point about how space restrictions can mandate a pump to be mounted in a unique manner. Sometimes you have to get creative with external pumps. Is there a reason why an internal pump is not suitable for your setup?
     
  7. Buku Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Well I have my two Iwakis on my main tank on bulkheads to the sump. I just had that pump laying around and thought I would be able to make but it work with the little space I have in the stand, but apparently not. I'll have to look for an internal pump then. Thanks guys.
     
  8. DNW

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    You may be able to get it to work in that postion if you add a check valve near the sump. Not sure how much suction that pump has but if you prime the line with water it may work, and the check would keep the line primed when the pump shuts off.
     
  9. Roman Experienced Reefkeeper

    Cedar Rapids, IA
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    acrylic sumps are easy to drill to put a bulkhead on.
     
  10. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

    Cedar Rapids, IA
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    If space is limited and you can't get that inlet below the water level I think the best bet is an internal pump.
    There are a lot of nice DC pumps on the market. Even though they are cheap pumps I had a jebao return pump that I was really happy with. Moved plenty of water, dead silent, and problem free for the year or so it was running before I sold it and the tank.
     
  11. Bud Loves Bacon Website Team Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member Vendor

    West Des Moines, IA
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    suspended pump + check valve can work, but the check valve is the failure point.
     
  12. Zach Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Iam with bxr. External pumps. And especially the pan world ones are meant to run below water level. They are not a sealed internal wheel meaning that the spinning wheel does not have a separate chamber for nin let and outlet devided. It can't draw pressure. They are meant to push, not pull. Specifically even the ps series that has some 40 foot of head pressure doesn't pull water, and trying to take water from above the waterline voids the pan world warranty as am fyi.long and short. Those pumps won't draw water like that.
     
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