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While things overall haven't been very active with the club lately, this has not always been the case. Things tend to ebb and flow, and activity in both for the entire club as well as within each region is largely driven by those who step up to take the reigns and organize things.

Not that it matters for the "now", but there have been 2 frag shows a year as far back as I've been involved, at times there have been some regions with 5-10 meetings a year.

Will it ever get back to that level of activity? I believe it will.

As far as the incentive to join goes: some sponsors do offer GIRS discounts; each region has a PAR meter for member use; when there are fests and regional events, members get into these free; each region usually holds a Holiday party each year

Not trying to make any excuses or anything, just reflecting on it myself a bit. I appreciate your honesty and questions.

 

Most people are not going to touch this thread with a 10 foot pole because they don't want to stir up any more drama.

Regardless of what you have heard about me or anyone else being "butthurt" over what went on last year, if you haven't been involved in leadership within GIRS at some point in time over the last few years, it would be hard to understand and just seem like exactly that - hard feelings and butthurtness and whining and holding grudges.

Short story is that Donny got banned from here and I took a big step back from things (not only because of that) and a couple of others did as well. Before you make any judgements or assumptions about anyone on either side of that whole issue, I would suggest that you hear both sides. I'm more that happy to tell you my side in person or on the phone and you can make your own judgement as to whether or not I'm lying to you or skewing the situation at all.

I would rule out some sort of mending of the whole situation at some point in the future but AFAIK that is not being taken into consideration currently.

 

AFAIK = As Far As I Know

 

It's not really that big of a deal - anyone who is a reefkeeper and also on Facebook undoubtedly knows about CIRS and the many other FB reefkeeping groups. It's not like it's some big secret. There has never been a fee to be a registered user here, so it's not like you have to leave or anything.

You voiced your opinion about how you see things - that's not a problem! I don't think it's falling on deaf ears. One thing I can tell you from being in leadership, the hobby, and in a hobby related business is that any feedback - of any sort - is valuable. Seriously, I'll ship out a few hundred algae scrubbers and I won't hear a thing from 95-99% of them, good or bad. Most won't post online either, the subset of people that actually post online (that includes both forums and social media in all forms) is actually pretty low IMO. Then when I do poke people for feedback, complaints, anything, usually it's "work great" or something really short like that...

I'll leave you with this thought: since all that stuff went down, everything has been pretty much drama free (here and on CIRS) so...honestly I'm not sure I would want to mess with that at this point. Like I said, maybe over time. I don't think either group is going away anytime soon, and I don't think either group is really "against" the other.

When it comes to promoting one group in another group - that tends to be frowned upon (in general, not specifically here). Some groups will explicitly forbid posting about or promoting another group. For instance, I secured the URL www.saltwaterscammers.org and then went on the Saltwater Scammers FB group and posted about it because I thought it would be useful to have a website that had some of the same info, like a possible "symbiotic" relationship...my post got deleted within minutes. When I asked why, I basically got chastised like I had broken some global rule (which, admittedly, it was walking the line, but it's not like the site was actually built or anything...it was just an FYI).

So while we don't technically have anything in the rules that explicitly states that you can't link to another group, where it starts to get kinda fuzzy IMO or In My Opinion is when you aren't on the forum for a couple of years, then post a bunch of times in multiple threads within a couple days, and literally every one of them appears to be an attempt to drive people to another group (for discussions, sales, products, sponsors, etc). That's where @DangerJ's comment came from. You were kinda being over the top about it, you gotta admit...

 

Thanks for the feedback @Boostedbolt it is appreciated