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Filter Socks

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Reefified, Nov 16, 2010.

  1. Reefified

    Reefified Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    As I prepare to start filling my dream setup in the near future, a question has come up (My wife asked, "Why do some people have a lot of crap floating around in their water?"), and I don't really have the best answer. My opinion is that the "crap" floating around is a lot of stuff, food, deitrus, copepods and other goodies, etc.
    What are everyones opinions on the use of filter socks? I personally have never used one out of fear that I would trap all the desirables out of the water column. Please, chime in here and dish your thoughts/opinions, pros/cons.......
     
  2. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    They are incredible, if you keep them rinsed out. If not they will become a problem.

    running ozone will also make your water very very clear
     
  3. IowaDiver Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Joel sold me on them and I think they really help. I recommend changing filter socks every 2 to 3 days. If you don't do that, it probably isn't a good idea to use them.
     
  4. Reefified

    Reefified Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Is the clean water look worth the maintenance and the loss of the beneficial items in the water?
     
  5. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    There isnt that much beneficial things you will loose. Copepods & bacteria are too small. Your amphipod population wont even realize it.
     
  6. PotRoast

    PotRoast Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    ozone or a uv serilizer?

    seriously considering buying a uv serilizer from brs but they are expensive
     
  7. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    UV are incredible expensive.

    Here is what Calfo said on UV's

    A simple summary for UV to work optimally you must do the following:

    - prefilter all incoming water dowon to at least 5 micron (1-2 micron ideally)

    - insure colorless water by use of carbon (changes weekly) or ozone with carbon (better)

    - bleach and rinse the unit quarterly to eliminate organic mulm or any other sheen on interior reactor surfaces

    * the above are necessary to insure maximum exposure of water to UV light without reduction, refraction or any other impediment

    also...

    - change your lamp every 5-6 months faithfully

    - provide slow but steady water flow through the unit for maximum kill

    - maintain maximum water flow in system/display at large to keep undesirables in suspension for better chance at UV radiation

    - be careful when using UV in tanks with high nitrates (some issue with N stripping and Nitrite accumulation)

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    After all that, UV still does not work optimally from cleaning to cleaning and lamp change to lamp change or carbon change to carbon change. Water clarity, turbity and kill efficiency all wax and wane with the services.

    Ozone has the benefit aside from being steady in application of increasing oxygen saturation, improving Redox potential of water, dramatically improving water clarity, and more. Given to choose between UV or Ozone, I'll use and recommend ozone to most folks FWIW.

     
  8. bobsfish

    bobsfish Experienced Reefkeeper

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    You can soak the socks for a couple days in 1 part chlorine bleach to 3 (or 4) parts water...or, I know many people put them in the washing machine with bleach (no detergent). They clean up well .... if you don't clean them, they get pretty disgusting.

     
  9. Reefified

    Reefified Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    How are you all connecting them to your drains? My drains are dual 1" PVC. I thought about cutting a 1 1/4" ring off the larger PVC, gluing it a few inches from the bottom of my return (allow the bag to partially submerge). I could then either use one each or one total, since the drains are side by side, and use a drawstring style. Sound appropriate? Would one 7" x 14" work or would you use 2?
     
  10. PotRoast

    PotRoast Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Thanks. Calfo also recommended ozone to me for my cloudy frag tank. I did some preliminary research and I found BRS approves of a UV sterilizer they sell....and no other ones.

    However I needed some input on ozone...and got it. I'm going to keep researching this. I appreciate the input for sure.
     
  11. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    Without seeing what you have it sounds reasonable.

    BRS supply has a nice bracket that goes on the side of your sump that holds socks too.
     
  12. Reefified

    Reefified Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Mesh or Felt construction? 200 micron ok?
     
  13. Jay Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Yes the 200 Micron is fine and...

    Mesh: Thin, doesn't clog as easily as felt
    Felt: Thicker, better at removing particles, but can clog faster
     
  14. Bluefool

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    I listened in on that....I can't figure out how you add a little ozone tho.  How do you splish ozone into your frag tank?
     
  15. Jay Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Posted By Bluefool on 11/16/2010 07:16 PM

    Posted By PotRoast on 11/16/2010 04:25 PM
    Thanks. Calfo also recommended ozone to me for my cloudy frag tank. I did some preliminary research and I found BRS approves of a UV sterilizer they sell....and no other ones. However I needed some input on ozone...and got it. I'm going to keep researching this. I appreciate the input for sure.
    I listened in on that....I can't figure out how you add a little ozone tho.  How do you splish ozone into your frag tank?
    With what I can remember from school about ozone, I would think the best way to introduce it to your system would be your skimmer. I have personaly never used ozone in my tanks so I can only speculate though : ).  I know ozone can be pretty nasty stuff in certain situations and I would think tank inhabitants would be sensitive to high concentrations because if it gets too high you get nasty results in the form of hypchloric and hypobromic acid.
     

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