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Finely made it to AE today. Bleached acro recovery Thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by FishBrain, Jun 16, 2010.

  1. rc1214b

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    After re-reading your post I thought this coral was in a recovery tank on it's own... having questions about whether it's got redbugs now raises question about all your frags in the tank with it. Pulling that coral out and dipping will do nothing for it if it's put back into an infestation. Like I said above if the dip product you choose does not treat the suspected problem you are only stressing the coral out more by pulling it out of the water and leaving it in dip for however long.. You've never seen a coral slime up or strands coming off the coral after it's put back into the tank?

    Carbon sources are used to feed bacteria that remove nitrogen and phosphorus, thus creating a low nutrient enviroment, this changes the density of Zooxanthellae...usually lowering it. Zooxanthellae is what you are trying to recover in this speciman.

     
  2. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    I haven't seen any slimeing from useing coral rx. If I say you are right will you shut up and go try to be a know it all somewhere else?
     
  3. rc1214b

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    This is the second time now I've tried to help you and you've taken it as an insult. I don't understand why you would subject a stressed coral to something that you've already stated doesn't treat what you want it to.

    This is another reason why I prefer to lurk on this site...god forbid we have an in depth discussion and learn something
     
  4. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    LOL I always treat all new corals with coral rx when I get them and then a week later just in case there were any eggs just to be safe. You made quite a jump from what I said " I think I saw a bug" to what you said " the whole tank is now infested" To me that is not helping. And just to let you know most of the corals in my prop tank right now are montipora, zoas, and a few pocci frags only about 5 acro frags. So if there are some bugs easy enough to dip them all. As a matter of fact I beleave I will just dip them all in lugol's solution this weekend just to see what happens. There my corals and if I decide to dip them in a mud puddle what's it to you?
     
  5. rc1214b

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    Not once did I say anything about you having redbugs, you were the one that raised question to your new specimen having them. All I was saying is if you think you can treat an acro and stick it back into it's tank you're mistaken. Redbugs are attracted to acro's but can survive on liverock, plugs, or be free swimming for at least 24hrs. You have to assume the whole tank is infected if you want to solve this "hypothetical" problem. My point of posting was to give caution about subjecting your stressed coral to more stress for no real reason. I assumed with this thread titled the way it was it was your goal to help this coral recover, not turn it into a science experiment.
     
  6. nick

    nick Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Not my thread but would like to say thank you for posting ryan. Im sure several lurkers have learned something from what you have posted. I personally hope to see you post more as you are a very experienced reefer filled with a vast knowledge.
     
  7. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Posted By rc1214b on 06/24/2010 08:50 AM
    Not once did I say anything about you having redbugs, you were the one that raised question to your new specimen having them. All I was saying is if you think you can treat an acro and stick it back into it's tank you're mistaken. Redbugs are attracted to acro's but can survive on liverock, plugs, or be free swimming for at least 24hrs. You have to assume the whole tank is infected if you want to solve this "hypothetical" problem. My point of posting was to give caution about subjecting your stressed coral to more stress for no real reason. I assumed with this thread titled the way it was it was your goal to help this coral recover, not turn it into a science experiment.
    That's right it's MY GOAL to help this coral recover. The point of the thread is to document the recovery of this coral. It was not my intention to ask for help. Beleave it or not I do know what i'm doing. Although I have little experence with bugs I do know how to read threads on RC like everyone else.
     
  8. nick

    nick Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Wow your a bigger dick than I am.
     
  9. mthomp

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    easy fellas, this thread is moving in a direction that is completely not in the spirit of the club.

    that said, hows that frag looking, im hopping you find some kick butt mojo for it, and it turns out to be a prize piece.
     
  10. glaspie69

    glaspie69 Experienced Reefkeeper

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    +1 for the same reasons
     
  11. Gered

    Gered Experienced Reefkeeper

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    I really think we need to push for these in depth discussions. I always like to learn something new and even better coming from a fellow member!
     
  12. Waverz

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    Ok, so from what I have read you are dipping one coral out of your frag tank and then putting back in the same tank it came out of. I'm not trying to be a "know it all" but that doesn't make any sense what so ever. If you do have any sort of pests on that one coral, you should also assume your entire frag tank is also infected. By dipping one and not treating the rest is a complete waste of time and only causing more stress to the coral you are dipping.

    Also for whats it's worth I have had red bugs before, unless you have an infestation (climbing all over the place) I wouldn't worry to much about them. If they do become a problem, just scoop out your clean up crew and treat your whole system with Interceptor. It's not that big of deal.

    It's your coral do what you want, but I am gonna be straight up here and say continuous dipping isn't going to do nothing but cause added stress unless you are dipping everything in the tank.

    And for the record, Ryan is one of the most knowledgeable people I have ever met when it comes to reef keeping and was only trying to help, you admitted to not having much experience with pests. Why not take some advice from someone who has instead of bashing them for trying to help?

     
  13. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Posted By nick on 06/24/2010 01:42 PM
    Wow your a bigger dick than I am.
    LOL were calling names now. Nice are we on the playground? Are you going to go get your freands to beat me up?[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
  14. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Posted By Waverz on 06/24/2010 09:25 PM
    Ok, so from what I have read you are dipping one coral out of your frag tank and then putting back in the same tank it came out of. I'm not trying to be a "know it all" but that doesn't make any sense what so ever. If you do have any sort of pests on that one coral, you should also assume your entire frag tank is also infected. By dipping one and not treating the rest is a complete waste of time and only causing more stress to the coral you are dipping.
    Also for whats it's worth I have had red bugs before, unless you have an infestation (climbing all over the place) I wouldn't worry to much about them. If they do become a problem, just scoop out your clean up crew and treat your whole system with Interceptor. It's not that big of deal.
    It's your coral do what you want, but I am gonna be straight up here and say continuous dipping isn't going to do nothing but cause added stress unless you are dipping everything in the tank.
    And for the record, Ryan is one of the most knowledgeable people I have ever met when it comes to reef keeping and was only trying to help, you admitted to not having much experience with pests. Why not take some advice from someone who has instead of bashing them for trying to help?
    Two dips with coral rx is not a big deal. Come on the stuff is not stressful for the coral at all. The coral is not infested I just thought I might have seen something not sure. I'm glad it has turned into such a big deal lol a little excitement around here for once lol. Please everyone lets all calm down. I guess I may have read into something that wasen't there and for that I apologize. Lets get this back on track or just scrap the thread because I don't realy want this to turn into a juvinille name calling mach.
     
  15. nick

    nick Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Sorry at the time I was just pointing out the obvious. Ryan was just trying to help you a couple times and you got all cocky. Anyways i am sorry.

    Would like for this thread to continue as there was the start of knowledge information. Plus who dont like to watch recovery.
     
  16. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Dude your apolage is kind of worthless if you call me another name LOL. Realy though no big deal I was being a jerk. Realy we all must admit that if we havent meet in person we often get the wronge idea about someone from there posts. I realy don't think you would think me to be a **** if we meet in person. Most of the people I have delt with through this club I now concider to be friends.
     
  17. Gered

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    I kind of see everyone as my enemy in the club...you guys are always buying the coral I want before I get a chance!! HAHAHA!
     
  18. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Posted By Gered on 06/24/2010 10:53 PM
    I kind of see everyone as my enemy in the club...you guys are always buying the coral I want before I get a chance!! HAHAHA! Good point LOL [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
  19. AJ

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    OK guys...a couple of things about this thread are bugging me.

    First of all, whenever someone posts a thread on the GIRS forums you should keep in mind that you will likely get suggestions in response. The purpose of our club is to promote better fish and coral husbandry, so the very nature of our club implies that this should be the expected response. Expect suggestions and appreciate them...even when you decide not to use them.

    Second, remember that this is electronic communication. Probably the most frequently misread/misunderstood communication method there is. I'm a great example of how easy it is to misread something in this very thread. Bill posted about how he was going to dip in CoralRX with the following sentence saying that CoralRX does nothing for redbugs. How do I reply? CoralRX does nothing for redbugs. Doh! I must not have read his post completely enough to get what he was trying to say. With the exception of a few isolated incidents, I can say that the posts on this board are good intentioned from great people; even if they don't read that way. If you ever have question about how someone phrased something or what their intentions were, give them the benefit of the doubt.

    Third, name calling is never necessary. Remember our forum guidelines about treating everyone with respect. Without mutual respect, our club will crumble.

    Last, when a thread gets out of control due to excessive "drama", it gets locked. Then who learns from a locked thread? Well unless they are trying to figure out how to get other threads locked, nobody. Let's keep things under control and let everyone learn from your coral recovery experiment. After all, that's what the club is all about, right?

    Best of luck with the coral recovery Bill and please, keep documenting the progress.

    --AJ
     
  20. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    I agree with you 100% AJ.
    It was 100% my fault this went this way and again everyone sorry. I know I can be a bone head sometimes and take thing totaly the wronge way[​IMG]
    If this whole thing were a conversation in person it would be totaly different. And yes we are all here to lern from each other. And I have been in this hobby for 10 years but still lern somethin new about it everyday thats one of the things I love most about it. So please everyone forgive my stupidity and post whatever you feel right.
    Ok now for the coral it is clearly starting to show improvement in it's green base. Not enough to show up in a pic yet but to the eye it is aperent. Also it has excelent polyp extention. I'm giong to wait tell next wendsday to post some more pics that will be the 2 week mark.
    -Bill
     

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