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Frag/Grow out tank build

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by jsprague, Oct 21, 2013.

  1. jsprague

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    I have decided to once again use a poly stock tank for a frag tank (70g). This time it will be an independent system in the basement. Looks and space are of no concern, but I would like to keep it realitively cheap. [​IMG]


    I have a sump that I could plumb in, but not sure if I want to use one. Instead I may just put equipment and cheato in one side of the tank with some kind of divider.


    Things I have:


    70gal stock tank


    DC Return pump


    Sump


    20-25lbs of dry rock





    Things I need:


    4 ft of Lighting


    200-250w Heater


    Skimmer


    Carbon reactor


    Power head(probably a WP40 or a WP25 if a 40 is too powerfull)


    Dry/live rock





    I would gladly take any input or recommendations on this build. I was thinking t-5's for lighting, but could be convinced otherwise. If you have any equipment to sell let me know as well.
     
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  2. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    I would make it a sump/tank. One side live rock and cheato and use baffle and pump water back over to Liverock side from frag/ lower side. You could even do small internal skimmer too. I like what you are planing. I would even go as far as adding a side viewing cut out on frag side and use plexi to cover opening.

    Kp
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  3. jsprague

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    Thanks for the input. What would you use for glue to seal acrylic to the poly container? I like the divider idea as well so that the level in the fuge/skimmer area stays the same. The tank is about 6'x2' and 1' deep, and 4' of frag space would be more than enough, leaving 2'x2' for the LR equipment and cheato.
     
  4. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    Yeah sounds like a great project. I would just use Silicone, but there are Plastic glues/Bonds out there that would do also! Your not really looking for a glue or bonding agent really, but just a sealing agent to keep the to compartments separate. The compartments would not have to be water tight so silicone should do fine. I am no export on this, but silicone or just plain old Aquarium sealant would be what I would use. I would let the silicone dry for 3 to 5 days or tell you cant smell fumes from the drying silicone anymore. You don't want to smell any fumes and that's why use as little as possible. I have done this for 20+ years and have had no issues.

    Keep us posted on this project, because I am very interested in it.

    Thanks

    KP

     
  5. jsprague

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    Anyone think an evergrow led fixture would have any advantage over a T5 fixture? Price is about the same, maybe cheaper for the led over time. Growth is pretty much the only concern, as I don't think either will have heat issues. Looks won't matter either as this will be in an unfinished basement.
     
  6. mpivit Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I have evergrow fixtures and like them, I do get good growth, but on a shallow tank the only advantage they have is probably price.
    You'd probably want an 6-8 bulb t-5 fixture which gets expensive with bulb replacement. You would need 2x ever grows to cover a 4ft area though.
     
  7. jsprague

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    I'm leaning T5 since they are proven to grow it all, and with the shallow tank I'm sure the leds would shock most coral. I have 1 Vega over my 60 cube and its below 40% on whites. Most coral still need to be acclimated on the sandbed.
     
  8. Adam

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    I'm looking for nice lighting for my 135g fowlr tank. I like the evergrows for the money and cause I want to hang the over my tank. I haven't found a 72inch T5 or 2 36inch T5 fixtures that I really like. Evergrows seem lime a great alternative for the money and I could always go back to a reef tank.
     
  9. ShaneP Well Known Hawkfish

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    I kept my reef in one of those during my transition period between moving tanks. My reef was in one for about a month. Siphoning was challenging because due to shallow depth and large bottom surface area. I wasn't able to make a good dent in the detritus by the time water level was getting too low. I tried to get my pumps to corral the detritus into piles to make it easier.

    Then again, I had fish in it and of course had to feed them. A no fish situation wouldn't acrue detritus as quickly. Are you planning on fish?

    Also, most of those troughs don't like to have heaters come into contact with them, as they melt easily. Make sure your heater is properly secured to stay away from the trough itself or get a caged heater.

    Hope that helps.
     
  10. jsprague

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    Thanks for the advice. I have done alright in the past by raising the frag rack (eggcrate) about 2' off the bottom and pointing powerheads underneath to keep detrius suspended. As far a fish, I may put a clown pair in that needs a larger home but thats it.
     
  11. jsprague

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    Update- I have the tank in place in the basement, and cycling some rock in a tote.


    I have decided the DIY Avast CS1 skimmer will be best for my needs. It can be configured as a recirculating skimmer, which will handle a little water level fluctuation due to evaporation. The skimmer/fuge section may not be water-tight, so water level can change a little. I was planning on using the Sicce PSK-1000 for the recirc pump.





    [​IMG]


    Anyone disagree with this Kit + pump as the best option for $279.46 shipped?
     
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  12. jsprague

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    Here are some pics. I decided on an evergrow led fixture. Still some amonia so just waiting now.


    [​IMG]
     
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  13. jsprague

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    [​IMG]
     
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    [​IMG]
     
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  15. mpivit Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    It looks great, good idea.
     

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