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Discussion in 'Introductions' started by Patrick, May 17, 2011.

  1. Patrick

    Patrick Inactive User

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    My name is Patrick, I am from Cedar Rapids, and I am currently in the planning stages of my first saltwater tank!  It has been about 13 years since I last had a fish tank, 55 gallon fresh water setup that I built up to over 7 years (got my first fish at a carnival, won a gold fish, and took off from there).  It has been a long 13 years, but I am now in a position where I have the stability to give the time and dedication needed to care for another life, especially a saltwater fish tank that takes it to another level.
    It is my goal to eventually have a very successful and happy reef aquarium.  Where to begin seems like a bit of a daunting task to define, but I am well on my way thanks to lots of time spend on Reef Central, and now in turn time spent on here as well... along with numerous other websites, several magazines I have procured, and talking with a buddy that has had a saltwater tank for about 5 years.
    Now I just have to decide what route I want to go with my first tank; nano AIO or a 75 gallonish build with sump.  Cost is a big factor here (wife has approved a set amount for initial investment)... with that said, I guess it is time to go look at the for sale section and see what bargains I might find!
     
  2. mthomp

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    bigger is easier, while a nano looks like it would be easier it really isnt.
     
  3. mthomp

    mthomp Inactive User

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    hey welcome to the sight and the madness that is marine aguaria.

    If this is going to be your first tank my best advice is to go as big as you can. while the smaller systems look like they would be easy they are much harder to maintain stable lvls in. either way you go take your time and best of luck. we are all here to help
     
  4. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    I started with a nano and just ended up spending more money than I would have had I just got what I really wanted in the first place. Determine what size you want. Buy used. You can get good name gear for much cheaper that way. Doing that, you get better built gear that will last you longer while you invest in the other parts of your tank. One of the best investments that you will ever make is a controller. It will save you time and allow you to get more enjoyment and piece of mind out of the hobby. It's a great hobby that you will really enjoy. I know I sold all my freshwater tanks and never looked back within 6 months of getting my first reef tank.

    --AJ
     
  5. JB Veteran Reefkeeper

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    Welcome to GIRS!
     
  6. phishcrazee Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Welcome Patrick, I'm south of Iowa City in Riverside /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif Currently downsizing my tanks.......
     
  7. Armydog

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    Welcome to the site.
     
  8. Patrick

    Patrick Inactive User

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    Thanks for the warm welcome guys!

    I do hope to go with a larger tank rather than smaller. I have been taking a good look at used equipment as a way to keep inside the wife's budget, yet still get the larger tank size. What I have planned out is a 75ish gallon with 40 gallon sump (already have the 40 gallon, $25 off craig's list). I really like the dimenesions of the 75, gets the length and depth (front to back) I want for extra swiming room and aquascaping, plust it isn't as tall so that will help keep lighting costs down a bit since I would like to do anemones and corals.

    I am also eyeing a biocube/nano cube AIO since that really cuts the start up costs down a lot and lets me spend a bit more on secondary equipment, like getting nicer powerheads, a better RO/DI unit, etc.

    Anyway it is sliced, patience is the most vaulable piece of equipment I have invested in. Going to take it nice and slow, make sure the tank is ready and that I am ready before I go too crazy. This pushes me just that much more towards the larger tank, since I won't need MH's and that craziness while the tank is cycling and getting established. I am sure my CUC would appreciate the tanning sessions, but seems a little silly to have MH for some live rock, algae, and a CUC. Plus, doing it this way, the wife won't notice that I went over the budget (plus with patience I will likely score a great deal on some used lighting, etc.).
     
  9. mthomp

    mthomp Inactive User

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    that 40 gal sump wont fit under your stand for a 75. if your planning on putting the sump under your stand you may want to consider doing a 20 long. I have a 90 which is the same dimensions as a 75 and have a 30 long, its too big and there is no room for equipment or to work.
     
  10. Patrick

    Patrick Inactive User

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    This is true, since the internal footprint of the stand will be smaller than the tank it supports (in general), but I had also been playing with making my own stand that would allow for a sump of this size to fit.
     
  11. JB Veteran Reefkeeper

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    Of you could just build a taller stand which would give you room to work with a 30G sump. I think taller stands are nicer and frankly most of the stands that you can buy scare the crap out of me when I think how much weight they are supporting.

    -JB
     
  12. Patrick

    Patrick Inactive User

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    Tell me about it!  And the prices they charge for them are insane given the quality.  I don't think it should be too difficult for me to make a stand myself given I have made work benches that could support several thousand pounds.  Plus I can make it the height I want (I like taller as well), and spend way less money overall.
     
  13. Killernights

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    i just finished building a stand for my 120...its an extra foot longer for more room...simple to build and can hold alot, just make sure you get a smooth top that wont crack or warp to cause stress on the tank
     
  14. Patrick

    Patrick Inactive User

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    What size of lumber/quality of lumber did you use?  I was thinking of using 4x4's for the legs and beams, 2x4's for the braces, carriage bolts to hold it all together (except screws for the top) and 1" ply wood for the top.  Won't win any awards for beauty, but I am a pretty teutonic sort of guy.
     
  15. Killernights

    Killernights Inactive User

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    i used all 2x4 and doubled them up at the 4 corners to make 4x4s also put a 2x4 inbetween the front 2 legs and same for back...notch the legs so the 2x4s running horizontally across the top sit ON the legs at the same level and either wrap the sides with plywood for stability or run 2x4s diagnally from top to bottum so the stand doesnt shift sideways at all...i also used bathroom acrylic paint on all of the wood so the condensation from the sump wont affect the wood at all...if you look i posted a build thread on it with pictures
     
  16. Patrick

    Patrick Inactive User

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    I will go take a look at the thread! Sounds/looks a lot like what I had planned out.
     
  17. JB Veteran Reefkeeper

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    Yep, I used doubled up 2x4's as well. Works great. You can also use that styrofoam sheet type insulation between your tank and the stand to help relieve pressure points.
     
  18. MXC207 Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Welcome to the site! +1 on buying used to get a good start in the hobby without going broke. Any idea what your planning to run for lights?
     
  19. Patrick

    Patrick Inactive User

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    Either getting a used T5 to get started, or doing a DIY LED setup.  I have done a ton of research on the different options, and feel really comfortable I could do an LED set up for about what a good used or decent new T5 would cost.  I am really tempted to do the LED, since even though I won't start off with corals and anemones (going to wait until the tank is properly established like a good keeper) there isn't much point to spending the money once on a T5 to then spend it again on an LED set up.  But a decent used T5 setup is going to be even cheaper than both of those preferred options, so I might settle on that for the curing and establishment period so I can spend a bit more on some other equipment.
     
  20. MXC207 Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    JB's having a DIY LED demo at his house this sunday, you should check it out! Get a feel for what'd be in store haha
     

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