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Hydrogen Peroxide RBA

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by aleciadooley, Mar 24, 2014.

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  1. Mar 26, 2014 #21
    aleciadooley

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    This sonds like a phos reactor only with different media. Any opinions? I should probably start a new thread...


    http://www.fishchannel.com/saltwater-aquariums/aquarium-care/sulfur-reactor.aspx
     
  2. Mar 27, 2014 #22
    beckerj3 West Des Moines, IA

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    What does the stuff you are calling RBA feel like? From looking at the pics, I agree it doesn't look like cyno. Is is wiry and or tough? Looks a bit more like red turf algae. You might do a search on that. Problem with it is that its roots go deep - and even though you scrub it, unless you actually get the roots, it comes back. I read about this stuff awhile back - but don't remember if Hydrogen Peroxide was a possible solution. One onther recommendation was the mexican turbo snails.
     
  3. Mar 27, 2014 #23
    aleciadooley

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    beckerj3-sorry, I had one person earlier tell me that the turf stuff is not an issue. Not sure if that is the case or not, I never got a name for it. The pictures are of the maroon areas on the rock that I was trying to get ID.


    If you look in the background you can see little balloons coming off the rock-that is the RBA/red bubble algae (there are only 2 pictures that really show it) I have had 1 person act like it is no big deal. Kind of like it is a staple of the aquarium. But he might have been saying that because the pictures were taken to show the red turf I cannot identify not to show the rba.


    I will be leaving the red patches alone for the time being but WILL scrape one to get a better idea of it's consistency. I will also be putting off the waterchange for a bit while I treat all my rock.


    I plan on cleaning off the rock with a turkey baster before the water change. I then will add some nacarius snails as well as some scarlet hermits to clean the rock. Then hopefully I can start to add more fish and mayby 1 MORE filter.


    IF anyone can name the red areas on my rock that would be great!


    https://www.flickr.com/photos/121541832@N04/



     
  4. Mar 27, 2014 #24
    joshua.jebe "DIRTYLOO" AKA waterloo iowa 50703

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    i would believe from your pictures that the dark red maroon blotches appear to be a red/maroon form of coraline alge growth. i have some very small patches of it in my 75tank here and there
     
  5. Mar 27, 2014 #25
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    FYI I just found this link: http://www.ultimatereef.net/forums/showthread.php?p=4363767


    And it talks about that maroon coraline algae choking of the biological function of LR.
     
  6. Mar 27, 2014 #26
    joshua.jebe "DIRTYLOO" AKA waterloo iowa 50703

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    did you read all the pages of that thread? it talks about how someone that came to his house tod him that, but realistically it wouldnt live in the unlit or underside of the rock IMO
     
  7. Mar 27, 2014 #27
    D007 Cedar Rapids, IA

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    Dark red patches -if hard- is coraline (+1 that is what I would say it looks like in the pics) coraline comes in all kinds of colors, dark red light red purple green orange etc
    Red turf/hair algae is fuzzy even in early stages (pic does not look like red turf/ "cotton candy" algae) peroxide treatment OUTSIDE of tank will reduce it on the rock but if there are necessary nutrients it will grow back. I have rha and know it won't go away unless u adress the nutrient issue
    Here's a close up of rha in my tank for comparison
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    Cyano would be more slimy like and could be siphoned and would have the small gas bubbles also (doesnt apear to be cyano)
    With out holding the rock/seeing it in person... I'd say coraline algae
    Hope that helps a little
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  8. Mar 27, 2014 #28
    D007 Cedar Rapids, IA

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    Ps: lots of people freak out about hair algae....I don't. I embrace my cotton candy algae and it is part of nature and serves a purpose [​IMG] ... As long as its not everywhere lol
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  9. Mar 27, 2014 #29
    aleciadooley

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    D007-thatnks for the comparison, pictures always help.


    I am learning to embrace the algaes myself but at the same time learning who, what, where, when and why about them to prevent in the future if possible.


    I have removed and dosed with hydrogen peroxide-all my existing red bubble algae. A pair of right angle long tweesers, as small a tip as you can find is my recommendation. A lazy susan would have been nice as I popped a few when moving the rock around. I will be rinsing and putting back into the tank soon. I am guessing some of the rocks have been out of water for 40 min and others round 10. I am not sure if this will work or not. I could visibly see no bubbling. I did see a worm of some sort, a thread thin bristle is my guess-it ran for cover when I applied hydrogen peroxide. I can hear it faintly bubbling.


    We will C!
     
  10. Mar 28, 2014 #30
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    Update...


    I took a sample of RODI to the LFS today and had them run it with a TDS. Seems I am WAY over the amout I should be @. 155 was the reading and I am told no higher than 5 is desired but not having tested it before I am not sure what my base is. Ordered new filters as well as a valve for after my membrane for future testing (I was told before after and after the membrane are the only tests that r needed. I thiought that testing after the sediment and carbon filters was a good idea as well but was informed that this does not matter).


    So RBA was most likely caused by that. I will monitor the rock to C how quick the RBA comes back after the treatment of hydrogen.
     
  11. Mar 28, 2014 #31
    D007 Cedar Rapids, IA

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    That's pretty high tds...Does your unit have Di stage at end? For aquarium use you wouldn't want to have charcoal as your final stage, it will slightly raise the TDS from 0 to 8-12. Di should be last. Charcoal at the end stage is more for drinking water and just improves taste. If di as final stage, disregard :)
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  12. Apr 20, 2014 #32
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    Just in case anybody runs into the same situation, red bubble algae is NOT killed by hydrogen peroxide.
     
  13. May 5, 2014 #33
    Zach Coralville, Iowa

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    Little late to the game but h2o2 will take care of mermaids hair if it gets out of control and hair algae for sure. It will also kill almost all biological life on the rock. Zoas tend to make it in a dip of less than a minute. But more that that really burns them bad. Overall an outbreak of algea is due to a factor based on either chemistry or lighting. Or a combo and shiuld be approached as what has changed rather than dealing with the algea itself.
     
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  14. May 31, 2014 #34
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    My velvet damsel is eating my red bubble algae.
     
  15. May 31, 2014 #35
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    from what i understand and have experienced red macro algae does not fare well in low nutrient systems it just wont grow in mine except for a minimal ammount for only limited times yes this looks like a type of red macro
     
  16. Jun 1, 2014 #36
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    FYI It looks as though my velvet damsel is eating my red bubble algae.
     
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