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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Borky00, Dec 25, 2017.

  1. Borky00 Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I was changing out my flex tube for a rigid one with extra exyentions on my return pump and this happened. Not sure what brand or what this system is called but i now need to replace the return pipe. Any suggestions of a good place for a replacement? I checked BRS but did not see one there.
     

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  2. Roman Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Where did the black piece break off from? Bulkhead or pump?
     
  3. Borky00 Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    This is the bulk head or to be more specific a tube that goes all the way down my overflow chamber.
     
  4. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    I dont understand what you are needing
     
  5. Roman Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Is it a reef ready Tank
     
  6. Borky00 Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Roman you made me take a closer look and it does look just like a bulkhead and a pic pipe with an elbow I think I can find that. I thought it was something special. I will check Amazon again I think that is where I got bulkhead before.
     
  7. Roman Experienced Reefkeeper

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    I have a bulkhead here in cedar rapids and maybe a hose barb fitting if I dug long enough.
     
  8. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    What broke off, the barb fitting in the bulkhead? Does the broken end screw out?
     
  9. Roman Experienced Reefkeeper

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    some of them bulkheads have a barb fitting already built into them and they are super cheesey. Probably will have to change out entire bulkhead.
     
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  10. Buku Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    If you can't find a barbed bulkhead like that, get a slip bottom and glue in a barbed fitting.

    I know they come with the Aqueon overflow kits.
     
  11. Borky00 Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Luckily it only broke 1/2 of the barbed end off so I was able to fit a hose on there with a clamp to get things running. It leaks a little so I will need to replace it.

    I did find on line a bulkhead with a fitted end for the PVC going up and barb end. I expected to have to pick up a full unit not knowing it was several parts. That must be why I could not find it all assembled on line.
     
  12. Bud Loves Bacon Website Team Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member Vendor

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    I'm guessing it was like this one?

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    That's a Lifegard brand bulkhead, slip/barb. Yup you pretty much have to replace the bulkhead, if it were me I would go with a slip/thread (slip on flange side) BRS one and then buy the PVC thread/barb fitting from Menards and screw that in, I use a lot of those fittings (from Menards), they are good quality but be sure to check it to make sure the halves of the mold are lined up, every once in a while I see one where the mold parting line results in the threads not perfectly lining up, that will result in a dripping connection sometimes.

    Then when you go to screw the 2 together, use 2 wraps of Teflon tape (only 2) and then smear on a coating of TFE paste and screw together until hand tight, usually that is enough and you don't want to overtighten so no more than 1/4 turn further with a wrench, and only if needed. Even if you have a very slight drip, give it a few days to self-seal (better than cracking out the bulkhead)
     
  13. Bud Loves Bacon Website Team Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member Vendor

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  14. Borky00 Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Yes @Bud@Bud that is the one I was going to get. Are you thinking it is not that good a quality? Sounds like @Roman@Roman also thinks they are not that good. I will look at the one on BRS. I was not originally looking at just Bulk heads when I originally looked at BRS.
     
  15. Borky00 Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Also why do I need both the teflon tape and paste. I never used both and never had issues with leaks.
     
  16. Borky00 Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    The slip on the flange side in BRS is backwards from what I need. The slip on that looks correct is double the price, but also looks much sturdier.

    This is what I heard you say @Bud@Bud and will not work: Bulkhead ABS Slip x Thread (Slip on the Flange/Head side)

    I will have to look closer tonight when I get home from work.
     
  17. Bud Loves Bacon Website Team Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member Vendor

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    Gotcha now I think: you would use a thread/thread bulkhead so that you can screw in the fitting on the inside for the pipe up to the return nozzle plumbing, thread on the outside so you can screw in an adapter for the hose barb fitting

    Inside, you don’t need any Teflon since water can only get around that fitting and drain back into the bulkhead, or get pushed out of the line from pressure and into the overflow.

    Outside, pressure can cause a drip if you don’t seal the fitting. Tightening more with a wrench can cause future breaking of the bulkhead so using tape or paste helps seal. The tape + paste method is something I’ve learned over time and it works well

    Some people think more tape means a better seal. This is not right, more tape means more probability of cracking if you over-tighten. 2 wraps is all you need to make the connection easier to screw in. Paste seals up the threads a bit better

    There is an argument that you should only use paste but I’ve found that paste alone doesn’t real do great with pressure fittings. There is also the argument that you should not use tape at all on PVC fittings, and also that if you do use either you should first dry-fit the fitting as tight as you can by hand, mark the 2 pieces, then count the turns out, apply tape/paste, then put them together but only as far as you could have without tape or paste - the logic being that the fittings are tapered nd over-tightening at all can easily cause breakout, and most people crank on fittings until they are super tight thinking that is better when it’s not. The tape/paste allows you to get as many as a few extra whole turns in....so you really have to watch it.
     
  18. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

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    @Borky00@Borky00 I've got what looks to be the exact bulkhead bud posted the picture of. Marked AGA 3/4"
    It's yours if you want to take it and see if it will work for a replacement.
     
  19. Borky00 Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    The broken piece is not dripping any more so I am good for now and can wait for the replacement to come in the mail. But stay close in case things change Dave. Thank you for the offer @blackx-runner@blackx-runner
     

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