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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by new2salt, Aug 2, 2014.

  1. new2salt

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    Something is wrong with my tank however I do not know enough to figure it out I'm freaking out because I'm afraid of losing everything nothing in the tank is open except green star polyps and my xenia my ph is 7.3 I just dosed to bring it up my ammonia is 0 nitrate is 0 nitrite is 0 and my salinity is 1.023 and I usually keep it at 1.025 so it's a lil low as well would them two being low cause this what I would really like is for someone with more experience then I have to maybe come check my system out and tell me what I'm doing wrong if anyone is willing to come to Mingo feel free to call or text 515 782 6507 as for anyone that lives far away with any suggestions feel free to post or pm me
     
  2. D007 Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Were they closed before raising ph? Been closed for a while or just all the sudden? Done anything different lately?
    I've had salinity at that level before and stuff was still fine so probably not that, but yes 25-26 is ideal
     
  3. new2salt

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    It started with two being closed for a couple day's and now today all of them the only thing I've done was put in a algae scrubber about three weeks ago but this all started about three day's ago ohh and I started doseing four drops a day of nualgi to an 85 gallon system
     
  4. Bud Loves Bacon Website Team Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member Vendor

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    Do a water change and check your pH test kit to make sure it's not out of date. #1 don't chase pH. #2 don't chase pH. I never check pH.
    Nualgi + algae scrubber, I'm not sure but off hand it seems those might fight each other?? Haven't looked closely at nualgi.
    At 3 weeks you algae scrubber should still be in the maturing phase so then starting nualgi or anything else, I'd say you're just changing things too fast.
    What issue were you trying to solve in the first place?
     
  5. new2salt

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    Turbo I felt the same about nualgi and the scrubber I looked to see if you could/should run them together I put the scrubber in the hope it would starve the hair algae and cyno that I could never seem to get to stay out of the display I use ro water I was out of salt so I just went and picked some up I'm in the middle of changing my ro filters because they are about six months old but the water from my city is not the best so I don't know what kind of life I can get out of them fighting this algae is becoming a full time job I have to be missing something or doing something wrong it's getting costly and stressful if the tank wasn't in the wall I'm sure I'd call it quits
     
  6. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    That is incredibly low for PH. I would retest with another test kit.

    What is your alk & calcium? Very important to know before we go forward. Alkalinity is just as critical to corals as salinity.

    Dont panic, do things slowly.

    A water change NEVER hurts. Just make sure you dont make saltwater & dump it in without letting it all dissolve for a few hours.

    Let me know those, and we will go forward from there.
     
  7. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    Have you checked the TDS coming out of your RO unit?

    What are you running for a skimmer?
     
  8. new2salt

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    Well where do I begin I don't have a test kit for alkalinity or calcium not something I really new I should be testing for but that's the reason for this post because I'm obviously missing something or doing something wrong so tomorrow I'll probably go out and get a kit for alkalinity and calcium and as far TDS this is something that I knew I needed to get however I've not purchased one yet so you have many great questions however the only question I can honestly answer is I'm running a coralife supper skimmer
     
  9. Zach Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    We need to narrow things down. Posting emergency help question is going to send you in 100 different directions. Go ahead and shot me a text and I will help to norrow things dow with you. We can post the replies and how we got the end result once we get things figured out.
     
  10. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    Until you learn to test & understand paratmeters, you will always be having problems.
     
  11. Bud Loves Bacon Website Team Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member Vendor

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    +1 to that.

    At a minimum for reefkeeping, IMO, you need test kits/equip for the following (with what I recommend in parenthesis):

    Alk (Salifert or Hanna)
    Cal (Salifert)
    Mag (Salifert)
    Phosphate (Hanna) can use Phosphorus too but IMO standard phosphate is good
    Nitrate (Salifert for 10 or less, API for > 10)

    Salinity (Marine Depot Aquarium Pro Refractometer or Milwaukee meter)
    TDS Meter (Hanna)
     
  12. mpivit Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    If there is only one thing you are going to test, after the initial cycle my vote would be for alk (kh). I ran an algae scrubber exclusively for filtration for the last 2 years. It works good but the changes and starving of display algae does not happen over night if at all. It takes months if you have an algae problem for the scrubber to make it go away. What did you dose to raise your ph? Fast changes in alk are very bad for corals in my experience.
    You should probably do a water change to bring things back to a baseline, then monitor you Alk to keep it within parameters. Adding pickling lime to your topoff water can help keep things in range.
     
  13. new2salt

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    I'm in the middle of a water change that will probably let everything open back up but as stated there is a lot I wasn't testing for simply because I didn't do enough research before I dove in but now that people state I should be testing for alkalinity calcium phosphate and magnesium I will begin to do that but as I've said I didn't know any better I know testing is very important
     
  14. new2salt

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    I also think I'm going to get a good book and do some extensive reading and learn all that I can
     
  15. Bud Loves Bacon Website Team Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member Vendor

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    Your alk and cal uptake will depend on your stock. I had a big red cap that died and since then my cal uptake dropped about 80%.

    Keep a log book of your test results and dates. This will help you notice trends.
     
  16. Bud Loves Bacon Website Team Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member Vendor

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    You don't need a book to get the basics.

    Keep alk at 9-11, cal 420, mag 1350, use 0 TDS RODI, mix saltwater overnight (24 hrs if possible), keep N and P down. Learn the rest later
     
  17. new2salt

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    I've just finished my water change I'm going to pickup the stuff to test for alkalinity,calcium and magnesium sounds like most of my problem is with poor husbandry and lack of knowledge a big thanks to everyone who was willing to say hey dummy why aren't you doing this or that you should be and a special thanks to Zach and Bud
     
  18. new2salt

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    Well I think I figured my problem out tonight. I happened to have a hang nail on my finger and lone and behold I got shocked. It wasn't strong enough to shock threw the normal everyday skin. I also thought maybe it's just the saltwater so I put my hand in my fresh made ro saltwater and nothing. So I started unplugging things and found a bad pump. Just so happens it's the pump I happened to put in about three weeks ago. So fingers crossed let's hope all my coral will be open tomorrow!
     
  19. new2salt

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    Anyone use aquarium ground probes?
     
  20. F.D. Reefer Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Yep
     

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