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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by SaltWaterloo, Mar 20, 2010.

  1. SaltWaterloo

    SaltWaterloo Inactive User

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    Hey guys! So i've been researching what i need to grow corals, but i've found that for every useful bit of info i have to read 10 paragraphs that are useless. im looking for some straight answers on anything that is helpful, most specifically regarding:
    How long should your tank be up and running before you attempt to grow corals?
    What type of lighting do you need?
    Are there special chemicals that need to be added to grow corals?
    What qualifies as a "good current" for corals and how do you achieve it?
    Are the certain species that need bigger tanks? How big can you expect frags to grow?
    Are there species that should never be put together? Are there any fish that should not be mixed with coral? Or inverts?
    If anyone has any of this information and anything else that would be helpful, I would appreciate the enlightenment. I've got some time before I can even grow coral in my tank, as my 37 gallon has only been up for about 2 weeks, so i want to collect all the information i can to be prepared for when the time comes!
    Thanks all!!!
    -Sam
     
  2. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    Hey Sam

    Those are million dollar questions

    There are 3 basic kinds of corals

    Soft Corals, these are mushrooms, zenia, kenya tree, etc. These are usually very hardy & forgiving. They dont need strong flow, strong light, or perfect water condiditons.

    LPS. These are fleshy corals with hard skeletons. Candy canes, Acans, Brains & so on. these need moderate flow & light.

    SPS. These are hard corals. Need a ton of light, flow, & perfect water conditions
     
  3. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    You dont need special chemicals, but you need to be aware of 3 critical components, Calcium, Alkalinity, & Magnesium. There are the buiding blocks for LSP & SPS corals. Alk is also critical for the health of inverts like snails, shrimp & so on.
     
  4. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    You dont need special chemicals, but you need to be aware of 3 critical components, Calcium, Alkalinity, & Magnesium. There are the buiding blocks for LSP & SPS corals. Alk is also critical for the health of inverts like snails, shrimp & so on.
     
  5. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    You dont need special chemicals, but you need to be aware of 3 critical components, Calcium, Alkalinity, & Magnesium. There are the buiding blocks for LSP & SPS corals. Alk is also critical for the health of inverts like snails, shrimp & so on.
     
  6. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    As far as flow, soft corals & lps like gentle to moderate flow. SPS like it very very strong.

    And yes, some corals will kill other corals, some fish will eat your corals, or each other, or your inverts.

    Live aquaria is usually a good source for checking fish compatability.

    If you ever have questions on specific species ask here as someone in the club has probably had experience with it an one time or another.
     
  7. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    Oh and I would wait about 8 weeks, then add some softies. After you get the hang of water stability & keeping them healthy you can move on to LPS & so on.
     
  8. bobsfish

    bobsfish Experienced Reefkeeper

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    If your tank has been up and running for a couple weeks, it's likely not cycled yet. There is much information available on tank cycling (books and internet), but basically you'll need for your water chemistry to come into balance - the tank will have peaks in ammonia, nitrite, and nitrates. All should fall be to a zero reading before it's completely cycled. I wouldn't add anything to your tank until the cycle is complete.
    Perhaps you add some additional information about your tank. It's a 37g...but, what filtration are you using? light? protein skimmer? live rock? What goals do you have for your tank? what would you like to do?....are you looking for a mixed tank of softies and LPS, primarily hard corals, fish-only, etc.?
     
  9. SaltWaterloo

    SaltWaterloo Inactive User

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    Wow thanks for the info!

    So for soft coral, is the filter enough to satisfy their need for flow? and do i need a special light bulb? or would the regular tank light be enough?

    Calcium, Alkalinity, & Magnesium : Is there a device or test strips to measure the presence of these in my tank? Are they naturally occuring in the tank? or do they need to be added with water change (or more frequently)

    Thanks again!
     
  10. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    Please remember this is only a very brief summary, whole books have been written on each of these subjects.

    Do some research on sumps & protein skimmers. A regular filter will be hard pressed to service most saltwater tanks.

    Make a good habit of weekly water changes. That is one of the best things you can do for your tank.

    Yes there are test kits for each parameter & a million more.

    Water changes will keep them in check for awhile.
     
  11. SaltWaterloo

    SaltWaterloo Inactive User

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    Well I havnt really considered what i wanted to do with my tank. This is a project i'm doing with my girlfriend. shes more into fish, and im more into growth or plants and corals. I've already realized I am eventually going to have to get my own tank to work with. in the 37gal(tall) I have 4 little chunks of live rock and 2 bigger pieces forming a little cave. i also have a lava rock and my girlfriend added a fake cave. I'll get pictures up today sometime. The rocks have alot of some type of red algae on them, and theres about 8 of the little brown anemone that popped up on the rock. one little rock has some bubble algae. one rock is completely covered in sea grass and little blades of something. i call it kelp but idk what it is for sure. We are getting alot of red algae growth popping up in little spots all over the tank and some yellow and tan algaes in the sand.

    My girlfriend couldnt wait to get fish so we have 3 damsels, a clown and a wrasse.

    As far as the lighting and filter i have, give me a sec and ill try to find some info. we got a topfin started kit that came with the tank. it already had the light and filter. with it. if oyu need more info than that tho, ill go check n see waht i can find. We havnt picked up a protein skimmer yet, but will VERY soon. someone at petco told us a little 15-30 gal skimmer would be just fine, but they have a bigger one at petsmart for double the price. we havnt done much research on it yet but were planning on it today.
     
  12. SaltWaterloo

    SaltWaterloo Inactive User

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    Just took some pictures, uploading them.

    And i'm still researching everything, i just never really knew where to start before. so this really helps. thanks guys /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/smile.gif
     
  13. SaltWaterloo

    SaltWaterloo Inactive User

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    Ok theres Pics up in my profile.
     
  14. glaspie69

    glaspie69 Experienced Reefkeeper

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    a good rule is avoid buying things at petco, long story short there basically going to tell you what you want to hear to get you to buy there over priced equipment that is in reality junk
     
  15. SaltWaterloo

    SaltWaterloo Inactive User

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    haha alright. yea we tried 1 royal gramma from there. lasted 2 days. wont buy from them again
     
  16. mthomp

    mthomp Inactive User

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    petsmart/petco are bad, honestly i think they hire people just to fill shoes, when you go to buy a skimmer, get a good one, not one that will just do the job but one that will do the job and then some.

    Im curious about what lights you have, you say it came with the setup. can you find out if they are t5 or pc im pretty sure thye wont be halides but again check and see, that itself will determine what kind of coral you can grow,
     
  17. SaltWaterloo

    SaltWaterloo Inactive User

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    its a 30" florescent light. the bulb says F18T8 Natural Daylight. thats all i can find
     
  18. mthomp

    mthomp Inactive User

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    there is a good chance those lights may not work for coral. lights for corals are not cheap by any means, probably one of the biggest cost in your initial setup. that light will work for fish only tank.

    if your planning on doing softcorals and leathers, some pc compacts will suffice nicely. as far as flow goes id suggest looking into a powerhead.

    if you are ever in the qc area, id suggest stopping in aquatic enviroments in davenport. those guys can guide you in the right direction. Iam sure someone here can also point you to a LFS in your area as well.
     
  19. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    Posted By glaspie69 on 03/20/2010 02:48 PM
    a good rule is avoid buying things at petco, long story short there basically going to tell you what you want to hear to get you to buy there over priced equipment that is in reality junk
    Best post of the year!
     
  20. tuffy1845

    tuffy1845 Inactive User

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    i know for a fact u can grow coral with shop lights thats all i used when i frist started get a few maxi-jets and u will be fine
     

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