knock off gyre by jebao

makes me sick

 

I think them hot Hoover boards that catch fire are also knock offs too. Buyer beware and take your chances.

 

The concept of the gyre is not new. Has been in furnaces and corn cribs for years to move air. Honestly surprised someone didn't come out with a similar design sooner.

Tunze definitely stole the product design but not the concept. Poor creativity on their part

 

The materials used probably arent all that different or shoddy. Jebaos biggest cost savings is in research and development. The reason they can offer it so cheap is primarily because they only invest a fraction of what the original manufacturer did. So quality of materials isnt that big of a difference typically. That being said, if Jebao copied the initial release version of the Gyre it is going to be horrible. Maxspect had enough of their own issues with the quality and design. Trying to return or repair this will also be worse probably. Maxspect is also a Chinese manufacturer so at least for once they are ripping off people in their own neighborhood. That being said. I might get the smaller version to compliment my 150 Gyre. I like Jebao in that they are cheap and Ive found reliable enough to risk. My wallet has no morals.

 

Jebao*

 

Most people don't agree with them stealing other company's product designs. But to be honest most of us will still use the pumps for the simple fact that they're so cheap.

 

I would be nervous about the quality since the gyre is more delicate than the normal bladed powerheads they offer.


I am interested since maxspect is Chinese if the Chinese govt will take action against the ripoff. Often times the Chinese govt prefers to have Chinese made products even if they are rip offs and won't take action, but if it's a Chinese company they might be a bit more strict. No, there are not IP laws really in China, but the govt has total control and they generally act they can protect their own even from another Chinese company if they think it will hurt the overall market.

 

I guess imo who cares none of us work for coralvue... nobody complains about new frag racks when they all look similar. As for the lawsuit I dont think that went to far with the wps they still have them and still sell them... i have 3 gyre 150s and jebao pumps.

With my 220 I have 1 gyre and 1 wp25. I had to add the wp25 because of the dead spot the gyre has... there is not as much flow in the middle of the tank as I would have liked so I took care of it with a wp25.

Heres a pic of how the flow looked with the gyre

So I put the wp25 on the side with the gyre and aimed it straight in the middle towards the far side.

But like I said being a consumer none of us should really get butthurt over someone elses problem cause it really has nothing to do with us. Both jebao and maxpect have great customer service. When I had a problem with the gyre coralvue sent me a new one... when I had an issue with my wp40 fishstreet sent me a new one for free.

So it really comes down to what you can afford

 

It's the ethics of it. If you have a brilliant idea, it is good to have the security that you can capitalize on it for a time until the patent has expired. At that point any company can use the idea..

A centrafugal pump is nothing new. But that pump jebao made IS the same design as maxspect. They could have at least used the centrafugal pump in a different design/layout.

I value my time and would be upset if I invested time and money to fine tune a product such as @Turbo's Aquatics algae scrubbers, and they buy one, reverse engineer it and toss it to market before you can get your marketing pushed to the mass market.. So there is skin in the game. Those patents allow the first creator to recoupe that skin they put on the line.

 

I understand that part.

But in the end it doesn't effect us the consumer in a negative way it actually helps by offering a similar pump at a cheaper price.

In any business you have to stay competitive because someone out there will make something similar like 302 aquatics for scrubbers which 302 scrubbers look like crap compared to Buds algae scrubbers and Im sure dont work nearly as well

Its all about the customer support and quality of the product. Jebao ime has been just fine it took longer then coralvue but in the end they came through the same

 

You say it doesnt affect us until companies like coralvue stops inventing new products, or worst yet goes bankrupt because of it.

Of course there are many people who dont care because they care about one thing, money in their pocket, and buying something cheaper.

I care

 

So when the small jewelry store gets robbed, and they are selling stolen jewelry on the corner for .10 on the $, who cares right since none of us work at the little jewelry store?