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Mesh Mod?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Kylie, Oct 17, 2010.

  1. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    So, a few guys mentioned a way to improve air intake into my recirculating pump of my skimmer through a mesh mod. I got distracted though and didn't get to hear everything they said. Could someone please explain this for me? How it improves flow and how I could try it?

    Thanks,
    Kylie
     
  2. Gered

    Gered Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Is it for your Reef Octopus? If so I would not worry about doing it. They are notorious for burning up pumps after doing the mod.
     
  3. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Basicly it causes it to pull more air and chops it up into finer bubbles. If you decide to try it I have the stuff and have done it a few times. I would be happy to do it for you or I could give you the stuff.
     
  4. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Posted By Gered on 10/17/2010 10:52 PM
    Is it for your Reef Octopus? If so I would not worry about doing it. They are notorious for burning up pumps after doing the mod. Realy never herd that before. I have done it to two different octo skimmers asnd never had a problem. The first one I did it to has the same pump as kylies and has been going strong for over 2 years. It's still in use my beckerj3 as we speak.
     
  5. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    I wouldn't be against trying it if you wanted to come down sometime and show me how. I would make more cookies!! /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/biggrin.gif
     
  6. Bela

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    I was also considering this but decided against it since the potential to burn up pumps. It makes sense, I suppose. I know that in a centrifuge it is pretty important to have things well balanced before giving it a spin. I imagine the same rules apply for something like this and it would be pretty difficult to get things balanced out by hand. That, and you essentially end up sacrificing your impeller. What would be nice is if they sold an aftermarket impeller that does the same thing but is actually tested to be appropriate and "safe" for these pumps.
     
  7. Matt

    Matt Inactive User

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    If you do a search on Nanoreefs it seems to be a 50/50 argument about it making pumps lasting less. But it makes since how it will hurt a pump, with the mesh on there it will make the impeller have more resistance which means fiction which generates heat and causes problems. I would say pass on the mesh mod, and just get the skimmer dialed in right, alot of people are using those skimmers and not mesh modding them and having awesome results.
     
  8. vikubz Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    You guys have completely missed the point. Cookies!!!

     
  9. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    Haha yes, cookies. I bought this octopus skimmer used about a 7 months ago and it's always given me problems. I have never managed to get it to work just right and produce a good foam head or fill my collection cup. Recently, I was more successful by tearing my pump apart and cleaning it out but that only lasted a couple days and now I'm back to square one where it only makes big bubbles and not micro. I feel this might be my last ditch effort before having to buy a new skimmer.

    So, if this doesn't work, I'll probably looking for a new skimmer! Anyone have a really good one that a college kid can afford for an approximately 60g system? (40+ sump).
     
  10. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Posted By vikubz on 10/18/2010 07:45 AM
    You guys have completely missed the point. Cookies!!!
    That what i'm talking about![​IMG]
     
  11. Matt

    Matt Inactive User

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    I don't think we have completely missed the point.  The point is that it sounds like a good idea, but there are a ton of people that make them work without a mesh mod.  Gered has the same skimmer pretty much and the same tank pretty much and his is not mesh modded and it works perfect.  My guess is that there is something wrong pump wise.  Like there maybe is a seal that has gone bad.  I would personally try those things before risking a couple hundred dollar pump.  They are ment to work without a mesh mod, so is reality there should be no need for them, so doing the mesh mod to cover up a problem will most likely just compound the problem.
     
  12. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Posted By Matt on 10/18/2010 12:14 PM

    Posted By vikubz on 10/18/2010 07:45 AM
    You guys have completely missed the point. Cookies!!!
     I would personally try those things before risking a couple hundred dollar pump. 
    Uhh this pump is $45 and if it were a seal her floor would be verry wet as she has it plumbed externaly.
     
  13. Matt

    Matt Inactive User

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    Okay still, im just saying that basically they work fine without it and if she is having problems with it, then maybe there is something else wrong. 
     
  14. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Posted By Matt on 10/18/2010 01:43 PM
    Okay still, im just saying that basically they work fine without it and if she is having problems with it, then maybe there is something else wrong. 
    I'm going over there saterday and I will check all the bases before I do the mod as you are probably right.
     
  15. PotRoast

    PotRoast Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Couple things:
    I run two octopus skimmers. They are bigger than Kylies for sure. But they produce so much freakin finely chopped air that I don't need the mesh mod.

    That being said, my newer skimmer came from the manufacturer with a mesh mod wheel and mesh in case I wanted to do a modification. There were even instructions on how to do it.

    IMO the mesh looks like it will get clogged up easy. Also, it seems logically that if you stick a bunch of mesh to your propeller it is going to hinder it. So I am going to stay away from it.

    I would imagine that if you can't make awesome bubbles, Kylie, that your pump is not working right. Sometimes my skimmers will produce less than adequate bubbles and when that happens my pump is at fault somehow. Either the pump itself is dirty, or the connections between the pump and skimmer are weak.
     
  16. vikubz Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Before you attach the mesh you remove the blades from the impeller. I made a disc from plexiglass and attached the mesh to it with fishing line. I have had no problems with the pump getting hot or the impeller being unbalanced. It was really pretty easy, and while I don't know how much better it would be than a needle wheel impeller, it is a huge improvement over the original impeller. That being said, I agree that it sounds like there may be another issue.

     

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