1. Do you have an old account but can't access it?


    See Accessing your GIRS Account or Contact Us - We are here to help!

My Modest DIY LED build

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by MJB Tanks, Jan 1, 2012.

  1. MJB Tanks Well-Known ReefKeeper

    309
    Pleasant Hill, IA
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0

    So there are hundreds of LED builds on the web but every one is somewhat different. I took information from almost every thread I visited before deciding how I wanted to do my build so I thought I should share mine as well!!


    I've kicked around the idea of switching to LED for years and since I'm currently building a new acrylic tank I thought this would be the best time. New display tank is 48x19x30...somewhere around 115 gallons.


    Here were the key factors for my build...

    [list type=decimal]
    [*]Dawn to dusk capability
    [*]Variable moonlighting
    [*]Maintain full control of the color blend.
    [*]Get rid of the metal halide heat!


    Obviously I'm looking at controllers so I can fully program my lighting and what I put together should work well with the Profilux II Light...the only thing left to order!


    My LED's and drivers came from RapidLED (quite quickly I might add!):


    [*]48 Cree XP-E Royal Blue w/ 55 deg optics
    [*]24 Cree XP-G R5 Cool White w/ 65 deg optics
    [*]12 Osram Red LED's
    [*]4 Mean Well ELN-60-48D drivers
    [*]Wire in multiple colors to help me keep sense of things
    [/list type=decimal]

    Heatsinks were ordered from HeatsinkUSA:

    2 - 8.46"x18"


    Cooling fans from NewEgg:

    2 - 170 mm


    Many misc parts including stainless screws, aluminum angle and straps, aluminum rivets, shield spacers, etc...were picked up from my local hardware store.


    The biggest debate I found was when it came to the number of LED's per Mean Well driver. There is plenty of discussion around whether or not parallel strings should be used and the pros and cons are abundant for both sides. I chose to use parallel circuits to reduce the number of drivers I would need to buy since I shouldn't need to run my setup at full power anyway.


    Driver 1 - 24 Royal blues, rear strings of 12 on each panel wired in parallel

    Driver 2 - 24 Royal blues, front strings of 12 on each panel wired in parallel

    Driver 3 - 24 Cool whites, each panel contains 12...again wired in parallel

    Driver 4 - 12 red LED's for blending in at dusk/dawn times and creating interesting moonlighting during parties [​IMG]


    I wired the blue strings together across the tank rather than by panel so that if I do ever have a falure on one circuit (a bad LED will take them down) I will still have the other providing blue spectrum across the entire tank. I put each string that is part of a parallel circuit on a fuse to protect is should the other half fail leaving the good string alone to handle the full power of the driver. You can see this in pictures of the fuse box I put together with parts from Radio Shack.


    There are very good tutorials on setting the Mean Well drivers and I followed those. I set mine as follows:

    Each blue or white driver set to 1300mA per parallel series. I did read that the power balance between the 2 may not be a perfect 50/50 but each loop should get close to 650mA. As I mentioned earlier I fuse protected each loop...the blue LED's are rated for 1000mA so should an LED fail all 1300mA would go through the other string and damage my precious lights. The whites really don't need fused because one string of 12 can handle the 1300mA but I fused them anyway for my own piece of mind and to protect them from a freak power surge.


    So here are some pics...more in a profile album. I will add more pics and maybe a couple vids when everything is up and programmed.








    Everything unpacked from newegg and rapidLED:



    [​IMG]









    This is the fuse/wiring box...wired what I could, ready for the wiring from the fixture and controller:



    [​IMG]









    Test driving the cooling fans...didn't even have the mounting straps on yet!



    [​IMG]









    Here you can see the LED layout, color coded wiring to reduce my confusion!



    [​IMG]









    The finished fixture mounted in my hood...drivers and fuse box are mounted to the top:



    [​IMG]









    Close-up shows the wiring coming together in the middle as well as the plexi covers I made:



    [​IMG]









    Everything tested perfectly one string at a time...I will add more when the controller is up and running.  Comments, feedback and questions are appreciated!!
     
  2. erayk1 Well-Known ReefKeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

    981
    Coralville, IA
    Ratings:
    +35 / 0 / -0
    Nice looking panels! What did you use for shields over the leds?
     
  3. Andy The Reef Guy

    Andy The Reef Guy Inactive User

    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    Very nice man! yeah I'm wondering about you splash sheilds as well and where you got the standoffs for them?
     
  4. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

    Cedar Rapids, IA
    Ratings:
    +738 / 5 / -0
    looks like an acrylic panel bolted through some aluminum or stainless spacers. Should be able to find something for spacers at the hardware store
     
  5. Andy The Reef Guy

    Andy The Reef Guy Inactive User

    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    Yeah I suppose I really been jonesing to go out and peruse around the hardware store for a few hours but haven't had the time yet /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/wink.gif

    I wonder if it will cut down on the PAR output significantly though
     
  6. MJB Tanks Well-Known ReefKeeper

    309
    Pleasant Hill, IA
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    The plexiglas was just a thin sheet from menards. It was already 18" on one side so I just had to rip 8.5" of each side. (it was 18x24)

    The standoffs are 3/4 in zinc spacers from the hardware drawers at lowes. The standoffs were placed where I could drill through the heatsink and tap for 1 1/2" stainless machine screws.
     
  7. Zachstankostosmall Well-Known ReefKeeper

    326
    Quad cities
    Ratings:
    +1 / 0 / -0
    im starting the looking into some diy leds and i think that looks awesome
     
  8. Andy The Reef Guy

    Andy The Reef Guy Inactive User

    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    Yup right on. Except you will want to plan on replacing that plexi after a few months plexi has different crosslinking properties than acrylic does. Plexi will start to bow after a few months.
     
  9. Andy The Reef Guy

    Andy The Reef Guy Inactive User

    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    Did you just use the adhesive thermal pads?
     
  10. MJB Tanks Well-Known ReefKeeper

    309
    Pleasant Hill, IA
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    Actually I couldn't tell u for sure if it was acrylic or not...I recovered it from my sons "solar BBQ" science project.

    I used the thermal adhesive from rapid led.
     
  11. erayk1 Well-Known ReefKeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

    981
    Coralville, IA
    Ratings:
    +35 / 0 / -0
    Andy and I are both wondering because we are wanting to know what that sheet is doing for light transmission. Like how much it is cutting down the light. Anyone out there know for sure how much acrylic would cut down the light??
     
  12. Andy The Reef Guy

    Andy The Reef Guy Inactive User

    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    I gotta friend with a photometer I think we will be taking some measurements sometime this month.

    How do you like those fans your using? Those were the exact same ones I was thinking about getting.

    BTW I've read that the Mean-Well 60-48D has been measured putting out upto 1700mA, effectively 500mA higher than they are rated for. This means that you can drive two strings of 12 XP-E's in parallel at 700+mA (perfectly to spec) It will save me 100 bucks on my project!
     
  13. Bud Loves Bacon Website Team Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member Vendor

    West Des Moines, IA
    Ratings:
    +1,821 / 14 / -0
    Acrylic = plexiglas (Arkema brand name) so I don't see why it would need to be replaced with the same thing, or are you confusing terms?

    Acrylic transmission properties are better than glass (something like 99%) so it won't cut anything out. Polycarbonate is the one that has a greenish tint to it and does cut down transmission properties, but it is much stronger by itself so can be much thinner. Doesn't bond worth a crap so you can't use it for building, but for light shields on most stock fixtures it is pretty much standard so that might be what Andy is referring to. Polycarbonate is not acrylic.
     
  14. MJB Tanks Well-Known ReefKeeper

    309
    Pleasant Hill, IA
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    This is what I found stated in other DIY threads as well.  There were a few people out that with PAR meters that said if there was a difference it wasn't really measurable but we'll see.
     
  15. MJB Tanks Well-Known ReefKeeper

    309
    Pleasant Hill, IA
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    Thank you!
     
  16. MJB Tanks Well-Known ReefKeeper

    309
    Pleasant Hill, IA
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    These fans could not possibly be any quieter.  I had both of them running right in front of me there and could hear nothing at all.  It's hard to get a good feel on airflow with such a wide column of air but the air coming out at the end of the sinks appears sufficient.  I'll monitor for heat when everything is running full program...it would be easy enough to add another to each side.
    I read the same thing about the driver output.  I may boost mine up a bit as well but I want to read up some more...
     
  17. Nik Experienced Reefkeeper

    Windsor Heights
    Ratings:
    +13 / 0 / -0
    Looks great mike! By the way still looking for my ghost. LOL
     
  18. MJB Tanks Well-Known ReefKeeper

    309
    Pleasant Hill, IA
    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    Thanks Nik.  Ever notice your dog looking towards an empty hall or stairway landing? ;-)
     
  19. Andy The Reef Guy

    Andy The Reef Guy Inactive User

    Ratings:
    +0 / 0 / -0
    Did your lenses clip on nicely? or did you use some glue?
     
  20. danmgray Well-Known ReefKeeper

    307
    Sioux City, IA
    Ratings:
    +26 / 0 / -0
    Very nice lights! What are you using for the variable moonlighting?
    McMaster Carr has a decent selection of spacers and standoffs.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.