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Discussion in 'Cedar Rapids & Iowa City Region' started by JB, Apr 17, 2012.

  1. JB Veteran Reefkeeper

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    Hey all,
    I am in a situation where I'm going to need some help/expertise this weekend and if anyone can provide it, I will be more than happy to let them raid my frag tank.
    We are getting new flooring in our kitchen monday morning so I'm going to be spending all of this weekend getting removing our lower cabinets, trim, old floor all removed.
    The trickiest part is removing the old counter top and the lower cabinets.   I know I can get it done, but it would go much much faster if I had someone to help who knows what they are doing.
    Anyone interested?
    Thanks!
    -JB
     
  2. ThyRaven

    ThyRaven Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I'll see what I have planned after the tank tour, if I'm free I'd be willing to help.
     
  3. Troy

    Troy Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Wish I had cabnet and flooring experience. A little labor is defenatly worth it for a few of your frags. I have never done that before but willing to help if you need someone. Able to come after tank tour Saturday and anytime Sunday. Just send me a pm if you need help.
     
  4. Reeferforlyfe

    Reeferforlyfe Inactive User

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    Ill bring the sledge hammer!
     
  5. ThyRaven

    ThyRaven Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    JB you should just be a stop on the tour and before we look at your tank we need to help you remove the cabinets. lol they'd be gone in 5 min lol
     
  6. JB Veteran Reefkeeper

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    My tank is in no condition to be looked at right now... /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif

    BTW, I can do this part on Saturday or Sunday provided that I can get some help. I am looking for people to help that have at least some expertise in the area. The counter top can go, but the cabinets are going to need to be put back in so they have to be removed carefully.

    If all that was required is a sawzall and a sledge hammer, I could do that myself... /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif
     
  7. ThyRaven

    ThyRaven Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    How are the mounted? Age? I want to say they might just be screwed into the wall on the back wall of the cabinet. I hope these aren't fabricated and built in place. That would not be fun to remove.

    A big question is what type of floor are you having installed? Depending upon that there may be away to cut some corners and make this easier on you.
     
  8. JB Veteran Reefkeeper

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    No, they aren't fabricated. They are just screwed into the wall. Only about 10 years old.

    We're having ceramic tile installed. The reason we are removing the cabinets is because we don't want to cut corners on the installation.
     
  9. AJ

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    For what it's worth, you may be better off just buying enough extra tile to go in that area and keeping it stored away vs. moving the cabinets.  The only time that I can think of that you would need it is if you remodeled your kitchen and decided to keep the same flooring.  not too likely.  I've heard that some tile guys recommend this because it's easier for them.  They can install more full tiles and have less stuff to cut around and shape the tile for (which also means less tile breakage). 
    You want to be sure and tile under your stove, refrigerator and dishwasher, but cabinets, I don't think it's considered cutting corners not to tile under them.  In fact, I thought that it was normal not to tile under kitchen cabinets.
    The exception to that is bathrooms where I believe that it's common to tile under the cabinets.
    I'm no contractor so I could certainly be wrong, but that's just been my observation from other houses that I've worked on and helped others work on.
    Good luck on your job...I would help but I have a commitment that I can't break.  Sorry!  Let me know if you're still in need of a hand one of these weeknights.
    Also, I have a tile remover (which I've heard is also good at removing other materials too) if you would like to borrow it.  Let me know.
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    --AJ
     
  10. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    Oh, the other argument for leaving the cabinets in place is because it can be a chore to get them properly leveled and shimmed back to proper alignment. No wall is 100% true so there will be some shimming required to make sure that they mount right. It's not hard work, just takes time.

    --AJ
     
  11. HarleyHawk

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    JB have done alot of remolding in my old days and worked with my father-in-law for 5 years that has built some sweet homes. To get to the point, we just did the same thing 4 years back. what I did was take the old flooring and trim out put the the new sub flooring down then the new tile in. We removed the refigerator/stove to tile under them. put the trim back in (but I matched it to the top and cut it from the bottom) We tiled up to the cabints and did not remove them. everything looks great and if you and the wife want to come out and see it you are more than welcome. One last thing you have to remember is if you are taking out your cabints and putting in new sub flooring with tile when you go to put your cabints back in you have to trim your cabints (tops/bottoms) to make up the differance. Hope that helps and maybe you have got all your bases covered.
     
  12. JB Veteran Reefkeeper

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    Thanks for the input everyone.

    There were a few reasons why we wanted to remove the cabinets.

    1) We wanted the floor to be consistent if we ever decided to get new cabinets. I think the solution to this is to just buy some extra tile/grout so we can finish up the area under the counters if we ever need 2.

    2) We're doing a tile pattern and the builder wanted to remove the island so that the pattern didn't get screwed up around the island. If we tiled under the island, but not the other cabinets, the Island will be about 1/2" taller. That' probably won't make much difference in the long run I guess. I could also see how big of a deal it would be to just tile around the island too. Not sure what the best solution is.

    3) I'm not sure that we have enough room for our dishwasher with the added height from the tile. I'll have to see how much of an adjustment it would be.

    I think you guys have almost talked me out of moving the cabinets. Between moving all the appliances, taking off the trim and pulling up the old lenolium/tile, I have enough to worry about.
     
  13. JB Veteran Reefkeeper

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    Oh, and AJ regarding the tile removal tool. I picked up an attachment for my saws-all for removing tile. It should make it a breeze.
     
  14. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    Sounds like it would be cheaper to just replace the tile later if you buy new cabinets. I would agree with most of the others its a big job and getting the cabinets back in place maybe trying after raising the floor. It sounds like you have done your home work and know what you are getting into.. Wish I could help, but going to a wedding..

    good luck
     
  15. AJ

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    Hey JB..your comment about removing the linoleum and laying down tile just hit me. I assumed that you were going to be removing the plywood floor and putting down cement board on the sub-floor, then the tile on the cement board. If you have not read about installing tile on plywood, you might want to do a few Google searches on it. Installing tile on plywood vs. cement board can reduce the life of your floor as the expansion of the plywood, being different than that of the mortar, will cause the mortar to release and suddenly your tiles are loose. Check into it. Would hate to see you spend a bundle on a nice tile floor, then have tiles start popping a few years later.

    --AJ
     
  16. JB Veteran Reefkeeper

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    AJ,

    I'm not doing the installation. I'm just doing the tear out of the old floor.

    They are putting down cement board over the plywood, so we should be good.
     
  17. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    Ah..so that explains the difference in height you were talking about and why you were considering removing the cabinets...makes more sense now. If you don't, you may not be able to get your dishwasher out if you ever need to replace it. Well, hope it all goes well, no matter which option you go with.

    --AJ
     
  18. glaspie69

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    If you still need help I can probably make it down saturday morning, bonus is I have all my own tools
     

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