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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by TimT, Nov 16, 2013.

  1. TimT

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    If someone could take the time out of their busy days to come to my house and tell me what I need to do to help my tank I would greatly appreciate it. I know it my be a strange request but we are getting frustrated and trying everything we can think of.
     
  2. jazzybio13 MBI Breeder

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    If you weren't so dang far away I'd come for ya. If you can post pics and that would help a lot of us, and I bet you we could all at least pipe up and help online. /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/wink.gif
     
  3. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

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    I'm sure someone will volunteer to help you out. I think there are still a couple members around Belle Plain.
    I'd drive down to help you out, but unfortunately my weekend is full, and I can't drive.
     
  4. TimT

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    Just tested the water and everything is in check except the calcium is a little high. Did a 50 percent water change last weekend but as you can see the water is cloudy. The corals aren't doing the greatest either. The fish seem to be doing fine though. We've been dealing with this fire tge last 2-3 weeks. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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  5. jazzybio13 MBI Breeder

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    ok so high calcium often fuels low pH... where's that sitting? and how new is this tank... as far as when it was set up?
     
  6. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    What's high?
     
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  7. TimT

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    Calcium was at 600 mg/L. The tank has been setup for about a year but I recently moved about 3 weeks ago and was only to save about half the water during the move.
     
  8. jazzybio13 MBI Breeder

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    it might have gone through a small cycle after the move, but the calcium is far more concerning. anything over 500 is going to directly affect the alkalinity... which in turns effects the pH.

    I'd see if you can get that in check....

    cloudy sounds like bacteria bloom. Bacteria typically takes at least 1 month to cycle through a bloom phase, that would explain the cloudiness... (aside from water change cloudiness).

     
  9. TimT

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    So could the high calcium or low pH be causing the corals to suffer?
     
  10. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    You need to check your Alk. The above two effect it and thats what will effect your corals. Check that and get it to at least 7.
     
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  11. ShaneP Well Known Hawkfish

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    This is spot on in my opinion. If you moved it a few weeks ago, the cloudy water is bacteria dealing with newly available nutrients. What all parameters are you able to check?


    And what salt are you using? If your tank tests high I wouldn't use an amped salt. Regular IO would be good.


    Water changes and siphoning well would help remove both bacteria and the fuel it's using. It would also contribute to bringing balance back to Ca and pH, while helping maintain Alk.



     
  12. jazzybio13 MBI Breeder

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    If you can check alk., pH, and nitrate. Although there is a debate on the nitrates being harmful or not... the one thing most people can agree on is that nitrates (actually the whole bacteria/nitrogen cycle for that matter) are easily affected by wonky pH and alk. so it's actually just fueling one thing after the other...domino affect if you will.

    I agree with stepping up water changes and using a *basic salt. (non reef salts are actually better for getting high Ca down....) IO will do the job well.


    and YES...YES....YES... this will most definitely effect your corals.... a balanced system is a happy system. /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif

    Let us know how everything is doing, keep us updated.
     
  13. TimT

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    Thanks guys. I'll let you all know how it's doing over the next week.
     
  14. ruggerkc Experienced Reefkeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    If I got a reding of 600 CA I would assume my testing or test kit was flawed. Are you dosing CA? How would it get so high? How about calcium precipitate?
    http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2005-07/rhf/#1
     
  15. TimT

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    I was doing calcium and got some more salt. Not the usual stuff I get and I didn't pay attention because I was in a hurry but realized the other day it was calcium boosted. Lesson learned.
     
  16. jazzybio13 MBI Breeder

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    ooh.... that'll do it! /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/wink.gif glad you noticed it though!
     
  17. ruggerkc Experienced Reefkeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    Your CA levels will only get as high as the salt mixes ca level, with water changes alone. Red Sea reef mix for example is 450-470.
     

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