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New LR help / whats good or bad? Check my photos plz

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by kmcgill88, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. kmcgill88

    kmcgill88 Inactive User

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    I received my LR in the mail today!! I feel like an idiot but I'm so new to this I have no idea whats good or bad!! 
    I know I need to cure the stuff and do some scrubbing but please help me determine whats ok and what needs to go.
    My live rock pictures are posted in my profile.
    Thank you!!
     
  2. mthomp

    mthomp Inactive User

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    everything in that dish is bad.. you got a mantis shrimp eh? you are lucky you found him, he would of caused major havoc in your tank. if it was me i would scrub everything that is growing on that rock off and I mean everything. cook the rock in a rubbermaid tub with a heater and powerheads. change the water frequently do this for a month.
     
  3. Gordo

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    The rock looks like it's right out of the ocean.................not good.   There's usually people in the group selling live rock, I would wait for some new stuff.
     
  4. vikubz Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Looks like the makings of a really neat SW planted tank of sorts.
     
  5. cowdust9

    cowdust9 Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    where did you get it at? looks like so FL rock and was/is that mantis still alive?
     
  6. mthomp

    mthomp Inactive User

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    yeah could make a pretty cool display refugium
     
  7. cowdust9

    cowdust9 Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    the orange looks like a sponge like this http://www.aphotomarine.com/sponge_suberites_ficus_sea_orange_sulphur.html, that rock looks like really good refugium rock if you have one of those with all that macroalgae on it!
     
  8. Foo

    Foo Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    http://www.livestockusa.org/CURING.html
     
  9. kmcgill88

    kmcgill88 Inactive User

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    I ordered it from liverockranch.com which is located near Miami, FL.
    The mantis is alive. Why would it havoc my tank? What should I do with it?
    What are the green slug lookin things?
    This LR is ultimately for my display. Needs some TLC, to say the least. 
     
  10. mthomp

    mthomp Inactive User

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    they make cool little creatures in a species tank but they will eat crustations and kill fish. move and smash rocks .

    do a youtube search on em. very cool creatures and I am planning on having a tank for one at some point but not in my reef.
     
  11. Andy The Reef Guy

    Andy The Reef Guy Inactive User

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    Oh man, yeah that is the wildest live rock I've ever seen and I've seen THOUSANDS of pounds of LR right out of the box (usually Walt Smith). They didn't market this as "cured" live rock did they? Hard to say if that stuff was collected sustainably, most often rock "farmers" will place dry rock in the sea and allow it seed over the course of a couple of years before harvesting, but never in a zone this rich in macro flora. In fact what you can see there is a large patch of deadmans fingers (Codium fragile) This stuff is commonly characterized as the most invasive species of macro algae in the world, and is typically found in sub-tropical/temperate zones.
    With established flora and fauna this dense on these rocks, this stuff has got to be cooked before it can be used. And any of that sponge is DEAD. Sponge doesn't tolerate oxygen very well, and I'm sure they shipped it in wet newspaper, essentially dry, which is fine for most stuff, but if there is sponge penetrating throughout the pores of that rock, it's going to rot and smell and decay for weeks! I would def get that stuff cooking!
    I couldn't make out the slugs, but they're likely a type of nudibrach, sea cucumbers, or nascent species of snails. In most of these cases they're harmless, unless they're dead and are beginning to decay, however, if they are young snails which haven't developed their shells yet, the species will need to be determined before we can determine whether they're going to be a problem. It looks interesting to say the least!
     
  12. Andy The Reef Guy

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    Oh man, yeah that is the wildest live rock I've ever seen and I've seen THOUSANDS of pounds of LR right out of the box (usually Walt Smith). They didn't market this as "cured" live rock did they? Hard to say if that stuff was collected sustainably, most often rock "farmers" will place dry rock in the sea and allow it seed over the course of a couple of years before harvesting, but never in a zone this rich in macro flora. In fact what you can see there is a large patch of deadmans fingers (Codium fragile) This stuff is commonly characterized as the most invasive species of macro algae in the world, and is typically found in sub-tropical/temperate zones.

    With established flora and fauna this dense on these rocks, this stuff has got to be cooked before it can be used. And any of that sponge is DEAD. Sponge doesn't tolerate oxygen very well, and I'm sure they shipped it in wet newspaper, essentially dry, which is fine for most stuff, but if there is sponge penetrating throughout the pores of that rock, it's going to rot and smell and decay for weeks! I would def get that stuff cooking!

    I couldn't make out the slugs, but they're likely a type of nudibrach, sea cucumbers, or nascent species of snails. In most of these cases they're harmless, unless they're dead and are beginning to decay, however, if they are young snails which haven't developed their shells yet, the species will need to be determined before we can determine whether they're going to be a problem.
     
  13. wolfman1973

    wolfman1973 Inactive User

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    most mantis that come from the Florida area are small and don't pose much of a threat.there are two kinds, a smasher(which has clubs that it uses to smash snails and crabs for food,rarely fish) and spearers( which have spears at the end that it uses for catching fish) they are really cool little critters imo. set up a 10 gal and keep it. i have one and it is my favorite critter!
     
  14. cowdust9

    cowdust9 Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    check out this link for tons of info on mantis on rc, i love them too they are really cool to watch and feed! http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=37
     
  15. kmcgill88

    kmcgill88 Inactive User

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    Went and got myself a rubbermaid tub today and scrubbed the crap out of that LR. I put it in the rubbermaid with a power head and heater and slapped the lid on.

    The mantis is still alive and I stuck him in my sump/refugium. (we'll see what happens with him)

    The slug lookin things didn't make it. they are decaying and I scooped them out.

    Posted more pics of the LR in my profile. lookin tons better but still needs some TLC.

    Keep ya posted. Thanks for the feedback!
     
  16. mthomp

    mthomp Inactive User

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    looks tons better
     

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