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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by dead fish, Aug 14, 2012.

  1. ThyRaven

    ThyRaven Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Foxface is the next fish in my tank once I move to the 210 this fall. Might not be a bad idea to have some RO handy so you can start small 10 gallon water changes just in case that ammonia spikes on ya.
     
  2. Tickyty

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    I did not take his comment to mean you should go out and buy 8 new fish. I think he was saying he did it and the key was they were all from the same tank set up so they were already familiar with each other. I personally would do no more than 3-4 at a time. I just added 3 pajama cardinals to my DT last night but they were QT'd together for 3 weeks in water pulled from my DT.

    If you are going to add that a large qty I suggest doing it in the cover of night when existing residents are in their caves and the new ones have some down time prior to being discovered. Good luck.
     
  3. ThyRaven

    ThyRaven Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Exactly my point. I'd almost recommend QTing the new fish together so they have a chance to rid any pests as well. Plus once QTed for a couple weeks they wont potentially cause any fights among themselves just the fish in the DT which could shortly the aggression.
     
  4. dead fish Dead Fish

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    Yeah, no way I could add 8 fish. I'll probably do 3 or 4.

    I already have 10 gallons of water mixed up and waiting at home for that just in case moment!

    And when it comes to clowns, if I add another does it have to be of the same type? I assuem so, but you know what happens when you assume...
     
  5. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    If you want them to actually pair up, yes same kind.
     
  6. Pete H.

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    That depends. I think you can get percula with oscellaris and things like that. However, in general, it is best to get clowns that are of the same type. What type of clownfish do you have? and how big is it? Because depending on what type it is, depends on the size to get for the second one. A large mature clownfish by itself will most likely be a female. So, if you buy another large clownfish from the store that has been by itself, chances are you get another female. This would be problems with pairing up. They will probably fight, especially if it is of the maroon or tomato type. So, a slightly smaller, juvenile fish tends to work better (then it will be a male). If the clownfish is a juvenile, then another one roughly the same size works well for adding as a pair. The exception is the maroon clownfish. If you are pairing a maroon, all bets are off. lol. They can be tough. The best strategy is to get a really small one to pair it up.

    If you have more details about the clownfish, you could get a more definitive answer.

    Hope that helps.
     
  7. dead fish Dead Fish

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    This is the guy:

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    Ocellaris, right? I'm guessing he's medium-sized, so a juvenile.

    I'm kind of in love with picasso clowns and/or black clowns. Any chance I could mate one of those with my guy?
     
  8. Pete H.

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    Yeah, he looks like a juvenile. I think the picasso are percula and you are probably right, this is an ocellaris. I know people like Sanjay have paired and even bred percula with oscellaris. So, I don't think that would be a problem. The black clowns can be ocellaris. I have a pair of black ocellaris myself. That would not be a difficult set to pair IMO. Since yours if a juvenile, I think you are going to want to get a fish similar in size, just a bit smaller. As they grow, one will take the dominant role and become the female. The other will then stay the male. Someone else can chime in with advice but I think especially a black ocellaris would be quite easy to pair with this one.
     
  9. Tickyty

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    I would stay away from adding another clown since you can not determine sex until they reach sexual maturity. This being said if the one you have in the tank now is a female and the new one you add is a female they will eventually fight. If you want to have a pair I would say remove this one from the tank and purchase a mated pair. Adding a different variety of clown is a definite no-no. They will fight period. I ran a similiar question by a RC moderator and this was the suggestion he gave me. Here is a link to the thread on RC that I use when I am looking to add new inhabitants. They only offer suggestions but have vast knowledge for why to or not to add specific fish to your tank.

    http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2068112
     
  10. Pete H.

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    I agree that it can be risky to try to pair with an existing clown already in the tank. I was under the impression that ocellaris were pretty easy to pair and such. I used the advice below and was able to pair my large female maroon successfully. It was a risk though! /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif

    Here is also a good thread on how to pair clownfish:
    http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=215098
     
  11. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    I disagree.





    A clown that size is almost certainly male. They are all born male. If you get another smallish one it will also be male. After they "hook up", one will become female.

    Next time you are in, check out our long surge tank. It has about 20 clowns in there from about 5 different species all getting along

    If it were Maroons, then it would be a totally different story
     
  12. dead fish Dead Fish

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    Well, I went out shopping last night. Was hoping to wait for the weekend and head up to ACC, but can't make the trip this week.

    The upside is I had my eye on a magnificent foxface at IC Petland. He'd been there for a few weeks and I'd been watching him, staring at the pricetag and pining away. I decided to pull the trigger and got him and a smallish yellow tang, acclimated them for over and hour and then turned the lights down, then out for the night.

    My powder brown is not happy about his new tankmates. He's being a little more stern with the yellow, poking at him and such. He's interested in the foxface and continues to move around him, but isn't getting too close, though i can tell he wants to. Maybe he knows there are venomous spikes there, maybe not. There were a couple times when I was worried he was going to get himself envenomated.

    He clearly wants these two new fish to know that this is his tank. My question is, should I be worried about it. I dropped some cash on these to fish and they're both really great looking fish. I'm doing everything I know to make sure they get acclimated to the new home well, but I want to make sure I'm not missing anything.
     
  13. ThyRaven

    ThyRaven Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    They'll settle their differences later today or tomorrow is my best guess. Another thing I tend to do is feed them a little on the heavy side after I add some new tank mates so they are all running around after the food together. Tends to make them 'bond' a little bit IMO.
     
  14. dead fish Dead Fish

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    I did feed right as I acclimated and then a while after I released the two fish, but the PBT is pretty intent on checking these guys out. I don't think he'll get too close to the foxface and the foxface is bigger (about 6"), but I'm just concerned that all his hovering will stress the poor guy out.
     

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