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Advice? Tank Build! overflow box

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by jayt, Sep 9, 2015.

  1. jayt Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Going to be buying a non drilled tank. Does anyone have experience with the h2o overflows or the ghost overflows. Would like to be able to put the back of my tank flush to the wall with minimal cutting. Equipment will be in a room right behind it.
     
  2. Drewster

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    I haven't used either but seeing both styles, I'd recommend the ghost overflow. Both are fairly "low profile" but the ghost should be much quieter if setup correctly given the multiple drain lines. What size tank are you looking to install this on? Also, where's the tank going to be located, will drain gurgling be an issue?
     
  3. jayt Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I have been talking with another guy and sounds like the h2os are fairly quiet. I was also thinking about running those because I will only have to put a couple small holes in the wall for piping compared to a box. Only thing I'm looking for now is advise on drilling the glass
     
  4. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    If the sump is on the other side of the wall, why dont you just drill 2 holes, put in a couple of bulkheads and add an elbow?

    Paint them all black and you wont see them much. That will give you more room inside the tank then a box.
     
  5. jayt Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Tank will be in my living room. Would like to use some type of device to keep everything in the tank.
     
  6. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    What do you mean? I thought all the equipment and sump would be in room behind wall?
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  7. jayt Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    All equipment will be. But I don't want to chance fish or inverts going into an open bulkhead and be trapped in socks for a couple days while I'm away from home
     
  8. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    There are ways around that. I usually cut teeth in them like an overflow would have, and you can also put a screen on top.

    I have never had any luck with adding a box to a tank that didnt have one. It always seemed like after a year or two the bond holding them together would start giving way.
     
  9. Bud Loves Bacon Website Team Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member Vendor

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    Look into this one also

    Exotic Marine Systems

    The thing about putting an external overflow box on a rimmed tank is that you want to be sure to install the box so that the top of it is flush with the top of the trim on the tank. Some out there do not do this and there is a reason you want it done that way.
     
  10. jayt Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I've been thinking the h2o one since it'll prevent anything from leaving the tank and still allow for easily plumbing rightto the sump. Any tips for drilling glass?
     
  11. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    That is really easy, there are a million you tube videos on it
     
  12. jayt Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Thanks guys. I'm planning on doing a 210 dt, which will gravity drain into a free 72 gal bow front I'll use for a refugium. I'll drill that so itll drain into my sump with skimmer and such then hit the return pump back to the dt.
     
  13. Bud Loves Bacon Website Team Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member Vendor

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    Better make sure the 72 bowfront is not tempered though
     
  14. jayt Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    It's a drilled tank already. Unsure if I should use the current bulkheads and bottom drain, ad some pvc and pull water from the top. Kinda depends what space will allow me to do
     
  15. cameron lake Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    i love the goust over flows the new ones at macna 2015 were sexyy and rill low profile
     
  16. jayt Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    When you guys plum your system how many pumps do you typically run. Do you have one big return and a manifold for your reactors and other equipment or will you run several pumps?
     
  17. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    I try to run one bigger one, then put valves where I need. I also have learned over the years to buy a spare return pump as it is the life of your system
     
  18. jayt Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I'm in the very early stages of my build. Will be using 2 return pumps. A 1k and 1.2k ghp on a 300 is gallon system. Just didn't want to have a dozen pumps running if I didn't need to.
     
  19. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    Why two if you could do it with one?

    Two pumps means twice as much electricity and two potential places for failure.
     
  20. jayt Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I already have the pumps is why I was going to use 2. Just buy one big pump then, plumb it to a manifold for returns to tank and ports for reactors and such?
     

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