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Rebuilding the 135

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ThyRaven, Sep 7, 2013.

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  1. Sep 11, 2013 #41
    ThyRaven

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    Zoobie - Do you have any pics of your setup / tank I could look at? I am thinking 3 of the Value units would work on my tank. Prolly need two more or a Photo48 for my frag tank when I get it running /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/biggrin.gif
     
  2. Sep 11, 2013 #42
    Zoobie Bondurant

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    I can text you a picture of them hanging above the tank. Let me know what number to text to. These do have red in them by the way. There is 2 red ones on the value unit.
     
  3. Sep 11, 2013 #43
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    The value are full spectrum, or pretty dang close.
    Channel 1 consists of 13 4500K neutral whites, 6 480nm blue, 6 420nm violet, and 2 660nm deep reds. Channel 2 consists of 28 450nm royal blues, for a 14k output with both channels at maximum intensity. I don't think you need all those other colors for complete spectrum. The addition of reds, 480 blues and most important IMO 420nm light is pretty good. Especially compared to royal blue/white LEDs.
     
  4. Sep 11, 2013 #44
    Bud West Des Moines, IA

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    If you are doing it all over I would do it as a BeanAnimal and you will not regret it. It tank already drilled?
     
  5. Sep 11, 2013 #45
    saltclg

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    mjb tanks did my beananimal and it is AWESOME!!!! u will not regret it
     
  6. Sep 11, 2013 #46
    ThyRaven

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    Yes Bud it is drilled. You made me a wonderful black acrylic over flow for it lol

    Problem I have tho is that I have 2 - 1" holes not 3. Is that an issue? If so how do I fix?
     
  7. Sep 11, 2013 #47
    ThyRaven

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    http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1310585 < - - - reading that but still need to know if I need a 3rd hole if so who can drill it and Bud can you make me a new overflow? lol

    Would it be easier to add a box behind the tank that allowed pass thru from the 2 holes in the glass to a BeanAnimal overflow setup that was external?
     
  8. Sep 11, 2013 #48
    Bud West Des Moines, IA

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    No you don't need 3 holes if you do an internal box and a pass-thru to an external box, and the external box has the 3 holes. This is actually the preferred method but the pass-thru holes should be pretty big if you want to handle a lot of flow. I thought you may have sold your entire setup and have a new tank from scratch. So did you sell the old overflow box but not the tank?
     
  9. Sep 12, 2013 #49
    ThyRaven

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    Nope still have the wholr setup. Sale fell thru and decided to suck it up and keep it.
    How deep does the external box need to be? I think I have 24" to play with. Tje tank taking 18" already.
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  10. Sep 12, 2013 #50
    Bud West Des Moines, IA

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    So you still have the internal overflow box, but need it rebuilt? Confused
     
  11. Sep 12, 2013 #51
    ThyRaven

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    No I don't need to rebuilt if it'll work for the internal part. It has 2-1" holes so I figure that is 600 GPH which should be enough for the shipons.
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    Bud West Des Moines, IA

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    Yeah but the issue is that pass-thru holes do not have the same flow capabilities. It all has to do with inner diameter and water level differences. Let me think about this a bit. You can probably use this in a Herbie configuration, which is a little less fail-safe without the 3rd drain, but would still be dead silent. Otherwise you're looking at needing to re-drill for larger holes, lower on the tank wall, and having a new internal & external box. Or drilling a 3rd hole and going with Bean's original design, which might be the best way to do it.
     
  13. Sep 12, 2013 #53
    ThyRaven

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    Aj drilled my tank so maybe its a 1.5" hole. My holes are center so that would kinda throw off design if I add a 3rd. Making them bigger sounds like a bad idea as well. Ill look up the herbie design.
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  14. Sep 12, 2013 #54
    Bud West Des Moines, IA

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    Hole size doesn't matter, they take 1" bulkheads so that is what restricts pass-thru flow rate
     
  15. Sep 12, 2013 #55
    ThyRaven

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    Right and I thought that a 1" bulk head had an inner dia of 1". I coyld be wrong but its been a while so re-learning and I really really want this done 100% right this time.
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  16. Sep 12, 2013 #56
    ThyRaven

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    Ok you convinced me on the value LEDs units. Now to convince the wife why $600 is a good price lol
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  17. Sep 12, 2013 #57
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    Haha. I suppose a spreadsheet showing electricity and bulb savings over 5 years compared to other options that make the same PAR wouldn't impress her?
     
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  18. Sep 12, 2013 #58
    ThyRaven

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    Nope to geekie and to much math lol. I figure its $80 a PC bulb and I need 4 at a time so that's $320. Need replaced twice a year so I'd spend the same amount once for 5-10 years I would in bulbs per year.
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  19. Sep 12, 2013 #59
    hart

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    And as a bonus you are getting waaaaayyy more light!
     
  20. Sep 12, 2013 #60
    ThyRaven

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    Yea PCs are only 96W a piece if I remember right.
    How high off the water are yours?
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