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Red slime remover?

Discussion in 'Buy/Sell/Trade' started by SaltWaterloo, Mar 26, 2010.

  1. SaltWaterloo

    SaltWaterloo Inactive User

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    Hey it seems like a long shot but does anyone have any leftover or new bottles of red slime removers to give away or sell? Thanks
     
  2. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    Get rid of the source and you'll get rid of the slime. Red slime and algaes in general need phosphates and nitrates to grow. Low flow also encourages growth. Use GFO to reduce the phosphates, don't overfeed and do regular water changes to keep nitrates in check and get another powerhead or two to increase your flow. Now give it a little time and you'll see the algaes go away on their own. A general recommendation is to only use chemicals and additives as a last resort. Try to take care of things naturally first.

    --AJ
     
  3. Troy

    Troy Experienced Reefkeeper

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    One other thing you can do in addition to what AJ said is to turn your lights off a couple days. That will kill the red slime algae while you elimanate the source of the problem. Don't worry it won't hurt your corals not having light just for a few days.
     
  4. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    +1
     
  5. jtesdall

    jtesdall Expert Reefkeeper

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    But I will add a little ...... Don't do it!! Never add chemicals you can't measure. Red Slime removers are normally anti-biotics that will kill other good bacteria and can potentially crash your tank.
    If it does work you are only getting rid of the symptoms and they will return. Do what AJ mentioned and control the source, Nitrates and Phosphates, Flow and Lighting.
     
  6. REEFer Madness

    REEFer Madness Inactive User

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    Great job guys. Great advice.
     
  7. SaltWaterloo

    SaltWaterloo Inactive User

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    Alright thanks for the advice. Ill shut the light off for a few days and be careful with feeding. iv had a tunze 6025 pump and 9002 skimmer in there for a few days. i scrubbed the red slime off my rocks but it came back a little bit and its in the sand. I didnt want to add anything but i didnt know what else to do. thanks for the advice!

    What is GFO?
     
  8. SaltWaterloo

    SaltWaterloo Inactive User

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    Also, do you think my tank is geting too much light? i usually turn it on when i get up at 8-9am and it usually gets turned off at about 12-1am. thats about 16 hours of light a day. goo? bad? thoughts?

    thanks guys /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/smile.gif me and my tank owe you
     
  9. glaspie69

    glaspie69 Experienced Reefkeeper

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    yeah thats way to much light for a tank, 8-10 maybe 12 hrs if you know how to handle it. What type of lights are you running? How old are your bulbs? Is that 6025 the only pump in the tank? What do you run your temps at? There's a lot of variables to winning the battle. Shutting your lights off may suppress the slime but if your tank temp is 80 and your bulbs are old it won't matter how many days you leave the lights off as soon as they come back on they will fuel the fire and your issues will come right back. GFO is a type of mechanical filtration that helps reduce phosphates in the water. Realistically it's jumping the gun quite a bit, I think your issue is probably far easier to fix than it seems. My personal opinion, keep that slime remover in the trash where it belongs, it sounds like a good idea but all in all everything in the hobby is based on patience, if you fix it fast it will bite you in the ***.
     
  10. SaltWaterloo

    SaltWaterloo Inactive User

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    My temp stays right around 79. Should it be different?

    My bulb just a natural daylight flourescent thats just under a month old.

    Yes the 6025 is the only pump in the tank. I thought anything more would be overkill in my 37g. I had to position the pump at the top of the tank facing up a little bit to keep it from blasting my rocks n sand. is there a good method to positioning a pump in a tank?

    I can post pictures of my tank again if youd like to see my setup. lemme know
    Thanks for all your help guys!
     
  11. glaspie69

    glaspie69 Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Drop your tank temp to around 76, i'm not familiar with that bulb but i do know the k rating should be no lower than 10k. having only one pump may be another reason for the growth, if you have to many dead spots it gives the algae a place to grow. Now don't get me wrong I'm not suggesting you run out and buy a new set of lights and new pumps, rather go one probable at a time. Start with lowering your lighting schedule and adjusting your temp down...give that a few days, if it has no impact you may want to research the k on those bulbs. After that if the algae is still there you may want to take a look into more flow or different flow if your pump is to powerful for the tank. If non of that works I would look into your water source and possibly getting a gfo reactor. Chances are it will be an easy fix
     
  12. JohnL

    JohnL Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Posted By glaspie69 on 03/27/2010 10:56 AM
    Drop your tank temp to around 76, i'm not familiar with that bulb but i do know the k rating should be no lower than 10k. having only one pump may be another reason for the growth, if you have to many dead spots it gives the algae a place to grow. Now don't get me wrong I'm not suggesting you run out and buy a new set of lights and new pumps, rather go one probable at a time. Start with lowering your lighting schedule and adjusting your temp down...give that a few days, if it has no impact you may want to research the k on those bulbs. After that if the algae is still there you may want to take a look into more flow or different flow if your pump is to powerful for the tank. If non of that works I would look into your water source and possibly getting a gfo reactor. Chances are it will be an easy fix
    Not to start an argument but it's not uncommon for people to use 6500k bulbs for growth, I did it for many years with nothing but good results. Why do you say it's bad to go under 10K?
    Flow is also a consideration but one 6025 should be enough as long as the aquarium is not stuffed with rock.
    Temp at 79* is a little high but not anything out of the ordinary, Many reefers keep their temp at 80* and have done so for years without issues, 76* to 80* is normal range.
    Saltwaterloo, Do you run a skimmer?
    I've found that the a good skimmer will not only remove waste but also oxygenate the water.
    What is your PH level?
    Low PH can also be a factor.
    Are you using RODI water?
    Tap water/Well water should not be trusted.
    How often are you doing water changes and at what percenatge?
    How long has your aquarium been running?
    It's not uncommon for new systems can go through different stages of algae growth until it has aged awhile. For the first few months there are many many chemical/bacterial changes going on all at once that will settle down with time.
    I do agree with the others on backing off your lighting to 8-10 hours after you get it under control and a couple days with no light or less light will help in the short term.
     
  13. glaspie69

    glaspie69 Experienced Reefkeeper

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    John no argument here, I gave the advice based on what I already know about the tank.

    I know the tank is under 2 months old, this makes the tank vulnerable to algae blooms, thus keeping the ratings up on the bulbs would help to prevent any extra algae from growing. Using a 6500 grow bulb is this case would be like throwing gas on a fire.

    Flow is a touchy one, the pump may be enough to handle the tank but if it's placement isn't right it may be doing no good.

    Temp range in a normal tank is 76-80, if your trying to get rid of a red slime algae or a few other problem-some algae s it's easier to fight the battle if the temp is lower.

    This is just advice
     
  14. SaltWaterloo

    SaltWaterloo Inactive User

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    our tank is on its 4th week

    We started out with tap water, and then realized we needed to switch to RO water. we had also heard that you could wait anywhere from 2 weeks to a month to change water. when we found out it should be more frequent, we changed it for the first time at three weeks with RO water at about 40% (6g out of 37g) ((i dont really understand changin the water and how the % goes but my gf is experienced with water changing freshwater)). im actually going to the store to get some more RO water pretty soon today. we are going with weekly water changes. I have two 3gal containers that i fill. is that ok you think? 6g out of 37g?

    My gf works at petsmart and takes our water in often for tests. she said its been normal but i can take another test when i run to the store for water.

    Ill continue keeping the light down, check the water, change the water and drop the tank a degree or 2

    I run a Tunze 9002 skimmer but its only been in the tank for 3 or 4 days. same with the 6025 pump.
     
  15. REEFer Madness

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    There's a lot of extra goodies for algae in tap water. Since most of your water in there is remaining tap water, you'll have to do a lot more water changes before you'll dilute it enough. Change out about 5 gallons every few days or so. Smaller more frequent water changes will help keep the tank more stable than a larger water changes less often.

    When you mix the salt and water together, aerate the water while waiting for the salt to dissolve for a day. It'll help bring up the pH and oxygenate the water.

    BTW 6 gallons is not 40% of 37 gallons. It's just under 20%.
     
  16. SaltWaterloo

    SaltWaterloo Inactive User

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    Lol thats what i said. my girlfriend had some other logic to it so i figured there was some other method to measuring it. guess she was just wrong and i should trust myself  /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/smile.gif
    But i will try that. more frequent to dilute the tap water. How should i aerate the water tho? i have little air stones out of a couple 1g tank i had years ago with freshwater.
     
  17. REEFer Madness

    REEFer Madness Inactive User

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    air stones will work great.

    I have a few of those 5 gallon jugs from wal-mart. I drilled a small hole into the cap of one of them to barely fit an air line into and use a bigger air pump to mix the water. I also use a mag float to keep the airstone down towards the bottom.
     
  18. SaltWaterloo

    SaltWaterloo Inactive User

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    Well thanks for your help everyone. I cut down our lights-on hours quite a but, upped our water changes, and got some t5 lighting /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/smile.gif Now the tank is looking great and almost all the red slime is gone. Thanks again everyone for your help without using chemicals!

    -Sam
     

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