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Reverse Superman Monti

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ThyRaven, May 7, 2014.

  1. ThyRaven

    ThyRaven Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Hey Reefers. I got a reverse superman monti a few weeks ago and it looks to possibly be bleaching. I did have it high and right under my AI SOLs so I moved it to the sand bed Monday night to see if it would be happier down lower. I'm headed into the fish room to get my parameters to see if I need calcuim or Mag added to the water. Over the weekend I'll be scrubbing the rock as it has a bunch of gunk on it right now. I did just add GFO and carbon but that was running a couple days prior to the coral being added to the tank. Any thoughts? Pics and parameters will be added shortly.
     
  2. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

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    I'm going to say the lights had a lot to do with it. Depending on where you were at under the sols you can bleach about anything.
    I think you're also making a lot of pretty drastic changes to the tank. Lighting, scrubbing rocks, adding GFO. you already know your water quality isn't that great.
    I don't even recommend wasting test solution checking for calcium, or mag, or anything like that right now. I would concentrate on getting the tank stable and don't even bother with the hassle of dosing anything for alk, calcium, or mag. I'm going to bet you don't have anywhere near the coral load that simple water changes wouldn't provide everything you need and more for those elements.
    Step one Get it all cleaned up. Let your GFO work, continue frequent water changes and let it stabilize again. Don't worry about anything else but water changes, GFO changes and getting the water quality where it should be.
    Until you get step one done, I wouldn't even attempt to add any more corals.

     
  3. ThyRaven

    ThyRaven Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I'm done with putting anything new into the tank minus a piece of rock when I scrub them down this weekend.
    Temp is 77.
    Ph is 8.2
    Ca is 700
    Kh is 20
    NO3 is 0
    NO4 is 20
    NH3/NH4 is .5
    PO4 is 1
    Sg is 1.027
    Don't have a Mg kit yet.
    Not sure why I have high nitrates and ammonia. But everything else looks ok. Thoughts?
     
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  4. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

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    I would not really call those OK at all.


    Ca is off the charts high. Are you dosing anything? What salt are you using?

    Alkalinity is off the charts high as well.... you have to be dosing something....? That high of alk could burn the hell out of corals as well.

    I assume you meant NO2 = 0 and NO3 = 20 since you said you showed nitrates. I would say if your nitrates are indeed only 20 that is the least of your worries.

    any ammonia is a bad thing.

    PO4 1 is high, but you already know that and are running GFO.

    SG is a little on the high side as well, but nothing detrimental if that number is accurate. Are you checking with a refractometer?


     
  5. ThyRaven

    ThyRaven Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    No refractometer yet. I have a hydrometer. I was told 1.027 was prefect. When did it change?
    I'm going to take a water sample over to pets playhouse tomorrow. I don't think my drops were very accurate.
     
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  6. ThyRaven

    ThyRaven Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Where is a good place to get a tds checker?
     
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  7. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

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    1.026-1.027 is fine, IF its accurate, but being you're checking with a hydrometer that accuracy is questionable.


    check out this link for the best ranges to shoot for.


    parameters
     
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  8. mthomp

    mthomp Inactive User

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    Like Dave said, your calcium and alk are off the charts and that is where I would start looking when it comes to things not doing well at this point. With them being as high as they are I do question the accuracy of the tests.
     
  9. Reefman

    Reefman Inactive User

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    Air Water & Ice has TDS Checkers for like $20



    BRS has Refractometers for $40
     
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  10. ThyRaven

    ThyRaven Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I need new filters for my RODI so I've been bouncing around on Air Water and Ice site so I may grab the TDS meter for it as well. $40 is a bit high for a refractometer so I'll keep looking.
     
  11. Zach Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    You want to spend the 40 for the refractometer. It lasts forever unless you break it and the more you spend the more accurate its going to be. Are you dosing something like purple up or coralline algea supplement? The ca and alk are near double the low levels. Which is huge. You should always have trace nitrates, its a sign that your biological filtration is working. The acception is a very high effeciencey refugium or utility tank with lots of macro micro algeas and a very well maintained dsb. Some of that is debateable. 20 is a little high. Water changes eill remove that and dilute down the ammonia.
     
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  12. Reefman

    Reefman Inactive User

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    When I switched from Hydrometer to Refractometer I thought my salinity was 1.026 it was actually 1.033......So having
    accurate results are worth it...
     
  13. Zach Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    My hydrometer right now testing reads 1.022 Which is low for my tanks. So I would top off with a good bit of salt right? My Refractometer reads 1.025. I just killed my tank in about two days. I also have an in sump hydrometer from flucal that reads near the 1.025's so its kinda a wash on that one... but overall the refractometer is going to change the accuracey of your tank readings by a factor. In my onw, it is probably #2 to an RO system
     

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