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RO/DI problems

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Railcar79, Aug 4, 2013.

  1. Railcar79

    Railcar79 Inactive User

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    I am about to give up on 0 TDS water. I replaced my filters (5 Micron sediment, 5 Micron carbon, and 0.6 Micron carbon) replaced my membrane (filmtec 100 gpd) and replaced my resin (BRS Nuclear color change) and added a different flow restrictor, and I still have 1-2 TDS output. I am out of parts to change out.
    My waste is around 400 TDS, and my water is 52 psi at the membrane. Any ideas
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  2. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    I get between 2 and 4. 0 is not needed, but some like to start at 0.
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  3. HarleyHawk

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    I don't know where you live in SD (in town or on a well) but I live in the country, the best thing that I have bought is a booster pump for my RO unit. most require 65psi. Even if I moved to town I would have one,alot less water waste (which means less cost) I am needing to change my filters out they have been in for a 1.5 years and still reading 0-1 TDS I run a WATTS CDP6800 Got it from a club member will never be with out one I hope that helps
     
  4. Big John

    Big John Inactive User

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    Get your pressure up to at least 60 psi.
     
  5. Railcar79

    Railcar79 Inactive User

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    I get town water, eventually I will get a booster, but had some other expenses hit that ate my budget.
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  6. Lee

    Lee Experienced Reefkeeper

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    I agree with getting a booster pump for more pressure. What's the TDS coming out of the membrane?
     
  7. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    If he has city water he should have over 60psi. I am on a well.
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  8. Railcar79

    Railcar79 Inactive User

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    I don't have a reading coming out of the membrane. I am on city water, the pressure gauge may be off, it was a cheap gauge from menards tapped onto the line from the 0.6 Micron to the membrane.
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  9. MXC207 Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I get 50psi and i run 100gpd membrane with 0ppm just fine. No booster pump needed. It just might need run for a bit. It never reads 0 after changing filters etc. Usually needs a breakin.
     
  10. Railcar79

    Railcar79 Inactive User

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    I ran about 40 gal or so, will check again in 2 weeks
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  11. Railcar79

    Railcar79 Inactive User

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    The water setup, free barrels from the ag supplier. The horizontal drum is RO/DI and the vertical is wastewater fro my wifes garden.
     
  12. Tickyty

    Tickyty Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I am on city water as well and I only have 50psi. When the unit starts up the TDS climbs after the membrane but after flushing it with the bypass valve for about 30 seconds they come back to around 1 - 2 ppm. I have the color changing DI resin and the TDS is 0 coming from there. If you are getting a significant amount of TDS after the DI resin there is something else going on. I am wondering if your TDS meter needs calibratiing or is it being used properly.
     
  13. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    Wow you all have very low psi for city water. You guys may have pressure valves on your house restricting the psi down. Average city water pressure is 60 to 85psi from research I did after building my new house. Temp of incoming water can lower output of R/O, but using DI resin and your still getting TDS I would consult a R/O expert maybe.
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  14. Railcar79

    Railcar79 Inactive User

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    I may try switching things up to see if there is a restriction somewhere along the line. I am using a brass hose adapter, maybe it is constructing line causing lower pressures, I have a bad habit of over tightening things.
     
  15. danmgray Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I would suspect eIther theTDS meter could be off a couple points or perhaps the gasket on the refillable DI cartridge isn't sealing properly. If you ever drive through Sioux City, I have a spare TDS meter and DI cartride that you could borrow.
    Also, are you measuring TDS right out of the DI cartridge or water that is in the barrel? Water in the barrel may pick up TDS as CO2 dissolves in it over time and that should be OK.
     
  16. Railcar79

    Railcar79 Inactive User

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    The meters (i have 2 different units different brands too) read the exact same TDS every time, I pour water directly from the Di line into a clean 5 oz glass measuring glass and test in the glass. I take the readings 6 or 7 times with each meter using a new sample each time (12-14 readings total)
     
  17. Tickyty

    Tickyty Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Have you contacted BRS to see what they have to say about the 1-2 readings when your DI resin has not been exhausted?
     
  18. Railcar79

    Railcar79 Inactive User

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    No, I am waiting till the 16th. I am sure that they will want to know readings across the system, and I will not have that info till then.
     
  19. Tickyty

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  20. danmgray Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    DI resin will remove CO2 but CO2 will begin to dissolve back into the water when it is exposed to air. Agitation at the air/water interface will speed up the process. (I'm sorry for going off topic here) I doubt the concentration of CO2 would amount to enough to affect algae growth significany, especially after mixing in salt and considering circulation within the aquarium. The relationship between CO2 and algae is interesting, and is worth its own thread.

     

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