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Advice? Sand or No Sand?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by B_Braz, Dec 25, 2015.

  1. B_Braz

    B_Braz Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Well the time has come for me to make a choice. Wanted to hear some of the clubs opinions on sand or no sand. I secretly love the bare bottom tanks. I never had one and I'm in the middle of a 220 build. (Build thread to come) I know it don't look natural, but not many tanks do anyways. I mean after all it's almost impossible to recreate and actual reef. For you Na Sayers out there, my mind about a real reef in the home won't change. So let's save that for a different thread. Lol. I just want to hear your opinions on the bare bottoms vs sand beds.
     
  2. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    I love both.

    But the argument for sand includes the need for sand for many wrasses and gobies.

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    That is why I am combining the best of both worlds with sand in the back, BB in the front. I will cover the dam with encrusting corals.
     
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  3. Ray/Jen_Reefin 2016 Vice President / 2015 Volunteer of the year.

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    I personally have one of each kind, I prefer a deep sand bed. The bare bottom looks sweet too, but after time with movement from fans the bare bottom just gets cluttered with particles. And takes the look away...IMO
    My 2 cents.
     
  4. B_Braz

    B_Braz Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I have seen another members tank that was half and half. It looks pretty good. What type of encrusting corals you thinking?
     
  5. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    They are twin tanks, set up basically the same way.

    One will be encrusting montis, they other zoas
     
  6. Ray/Jen_Reefin 2016 Vice President / 2015 Volunteer of the year.

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    @Jen/Reefin@Jen/Reefin mentioned Any kind of Cyphastrea "like meteor shower".
     
  7. hart

    hart Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Love bare bottom. Put vortech right on the bottom and not much settles.

    Can put starboard and white looks nice.
     
  8. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Never had a bare bottom myself. Just can't stand how it looks. I prefer a fine crushed coral. Looks good, heavy enough it doesn't get blown around, and can easily be cleaned.
     
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  9. B_Braz

    B_Braz Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    What about star polyps across the bottom glass? Just thinking out of the box.
     
  10. Ray/Jen_Reefin 2016 Vice President / 2015 Volunteer of the year.

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    That would look pretty sweet!
     
  11. jeremy Acro Addict

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    I have done both. With bare bottom I put some powerheads close to bottom and cranked them up. Worked great. But I didn't like the look. If I was going to do it again I would use starboard or white ceramic tiles to cover bottom.
    I went with a heavier grade sand to reduce sand storms when my diamond spot goby decides to move sand piles around. I personally would rather have sand. I like all the critters and wrasses and things that live there.
     
  12. Armydog

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    If you ever want certain wrasses you will want a sand bottom. I dont think its right not to for them.

    Sand beds look more natural imo.
     
  13. jeremy Acro Addict

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    Here's a bare bottom for ya. It's WWC tank on Reef2Reef. Encrusting montis, favias and chalices.
     
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  14. Ray/Jen_Reefin 2016 Vice President / 2015 Volunteer of the year.

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  15. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Wrasses do fine with fine crushed coral as well. But yeah they definitely need something to hide in at night.
    Bill
     
  16. Armydog

    Armydog Expert Reefkeeper

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    Crushed coral is not recommended
    though since they bury themselves and crushed coral can damage them
     
  17. hart

    hart Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    The biggest thing is just to keep what you like! Can have a fine tank either way. Sand critters are cool and fun - just have to be diligent and watch for detritus imo, but if you like it that is easy!


    To me personally if running an sps reef crest style environment sand looks nice but unnatural. Not any sand on reefcrest, just rock, so rock bottom if duplicating high energy reef is the most "natural" to my eye, now if doing lower energy section of the reef sand or mud is appropriate. But once again it's just personal preference and great tanks can really be run with just about anything.

    I do like how easy BB is though.
     
  18. Bud Loves Bacon Website Team Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member Vendor

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    Special grade reef sand is my fav.

    I wonder how tricky it would be to make 1/2 BB, like the left side, and the other half sand bed. Make a front/back divider/barrier to keep the sand out of one side. That could be cool
     
  19. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    I agree
     
  20. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Never bothered mine. But my crushed coral isn't the chunky stuff.
     

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