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Sealing A Leaky 55 gallon

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Tony L., Apr 6, 2010.

  1. Tony L.

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    My tank has officially started leaking.  I already have the tank torn down and cleaned and a 30g quarantine setup for my fish and corals.  The leak is from a bad seal on the bottom and right now my plan is to stip all the old silicone out of the interior, bottom and sides, and redo all the seams with new silicone.  I'm also planning on doing the same to the exterior bottom seams.
    I'm looking for any words of wisdom, previous know how, tips, tricks, do-don'ts, suggestions, commandments, etc. that anyone can offer from experience.  After I get all the silicone stripped out and the seams redone I will let it cure for 48 hours and rinse and check for leaks before I set it up.  I didn't save any of the old sand so when I set it up again I'll be using all live sand.  Hopefully between my old filter media and live rock, as well as 80lbs live sand, the tank won't cycle - at least that's my hope.
    As for the quarantine tank, it's set up with just the fish and few pieces of rock with coral attached.  I'm running my AeroForce skimmer with a bag of Purigen in addition to an AquaClear30 with a bag of Chemi-Pure.  It's been set up and running since Sunday and the 55g will be up and running by Saturday at the latest.  Should I have any concerns about the water quality in the quarantine?  I'm under the impression that a week isn't too long but you never know.
    Again, any advice would be great!
     
  2. adampottebaum

    adampottebaum Experienced Reefkeeper GIRS Member

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    It helps to lay down strips of tape about 1/4" from the corner where the ege of the silicone will be. This helps to keep it clean and professional looking. Just make sure you clean it all out real good, definitely use a couple new razors. I would switch them out for new clean razors frequently since razors are so cheap.
     
  3. Tony L.

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    Another question I have that I forgot to ask - it suggests using rubbing alcohol to clean the surface to be sealed before applying the silicone. Is it safe to use rubbing alcohol on the interior of the tank?
     
  4. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    +1  Follow these tips and you will have great results.  It's amazing how much of a difference a new blade makes in getting that final little bit of silicone off.  I also use a silicone tool available at most home improvement stores.  It's like a corner squeegee that puts a nice rounded edge on the silicone.  I can't get a good edge without it and it makes for professional looking results.  Look here at my sump build for some examples  http://www.greateriowareefsociety.o...fault.aspx.  About cleaning with alcohol, I always just used a clean washcloth and a little water, but if you let the alcohol dry/evaporate, I'm sure it would be fine for using in your tank.
    --AJ
     
  5. PotRoast

    PotRoast Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I read a post on RC the other day. It said if your tank leaks from the bottom then you have a major problem, and that stripping out and resealing the silicone seals will not fix it...If it leaks from the bottom than the silicone between the glass back and the bottom, the stuff that 'glues' the two panels together, is screwed* and you have to actually take the tank apart and clean all the silicon and glue it all back together, then seal the seams.

    I could be wrong on this.
    *adjusted for language by AJ
     
  6. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    You're right in the sense that it is the silicone between the glass that does the majority of the work holding things together.  I think you have to evaluate things on an individual basis.  If you know the history of the tank and maybe you just got a razor too close or something, I would have no hesitation fixing it and using it with confidence.  Now if it's an old tank that you got used, have no idea of the age, the rest of the silicone is in crappy condition, then that's a different story.  It's a judgment call.
    --AJ
     
  7. PotRoast

    PotRoast Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    That's good to hear. I am living in denial that my tank leaks. I know it leaks. I know where it leaks. The problem is it only leaks a little bit....the water evaporates before it has a chance to do any damage to the stand, floor, etc. It drives me crazy. Sometimes it doesn't leak for weeks. I guess I will try to fix it one of these days.

     
  8. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    I have a glass cages tank too...I hope mine doesn't leak!  I've not noticed anything.  As well as they build those things with thick glass, lots of reinforcing and lots of silicone, you have to wonder how they could leak. 
    --AJ
     
  9. PotRoast

    PotRoast Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I'm not really blaming glass cages.

    Tanks leak. Fact of life, I think.
     
  10. Tony L.

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    I guess I'm unsure whether or not it's the seal or if the silicone holding everythign together is bad. I'm confident that the reason it started leaking is related to the two moves the tank has been through. Both times I left the sand bed (aprox 60lbs) and enough water to keep it wet until it was filled again. I bought the tank new 6 years ago and have had it since then but it's only been up and running a total of 3 years - spent the other 3 sitting in my basement.

    Is there a way to know if its just a bad seal or if it's a bad joint and consequently a major problem? I think in this case it could truly be either one and I don't want to have to repair anything again.
     

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