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Skimmer issues

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Kylie, Jul 28, 2010.

  1. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    I have a Reef Octopus Recirculating skimmer rated for 110 gallons that has a maxi jet 1200 pumping it full of water and an octopus 1000 pump making the microbubbles. Problem now is the oct-1000 isn't making micro enough bubbles to make a foam head. I can see through the cylinder the bubbles are so weak. What can I do to fix this?

    Also, would too high of a water level inside the main cylinder/water chamber of the skimmer cause the skimmer to be less efficient? I was probably dumb and rearranged all of the 'out' tubes/pvc so that the stand pipe was taller than originally intended. I did this so previously it would reach over the back side of my sump wall. Now, I got a stand for the skimmer so I don't need it to be rearranged but everything is glued stuck. Any suggestions here?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    Does anyone know what type of piping the Reef Octopus skimmers use? Its grey and doesn't match normal PVC sizes. If I could find out what size it all is, I could re-rig it back to its original state
     
  3. B-Rad

    B-Rad Inactive User

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    Hi Kylie! Are you getting any bubbles at all? First check to make sure the rec pump is spinning (just because its plugged in doesn't mean its spinning), then check to make sure the air line to the pump is not plugged. If everything checks out ok. you may need to clean the pump.
    As for the piping goes your on your own there!
     
  4. ninjazx777 Experienced Reefkeeper

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    The pipe is metric. You will have to buy an adapter to standard size. You probably find it on the internet
     
  5. Gered

    Gered Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Is your "out" tube under water in the sump? When I go to do water changes and shut off the pumps my sump level rises covering the tube and that causes me to lose bubbles. I am using the same skimmer by the way.
     
  6. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    Yeah, my out pipes come up from the bottom of the skimmer, go across the top back edge of sump tank, then down below the water w a loosely fitting piece of normal pvc as an extention. Ill try raising that.

    And yes, the pump is on and running. Definitely making bubbles, just nowhere near as many as a couple days ago when I got it hooked up again
     
  7. jtesdall

    jtesdall Expert Reefkeeper

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    Should be an adjustment on the air intake Kylie. Is that open all the way? You will want adjust it down for best efficiency.
    If you aren't getting the bubbles you used to there should only be a few options with a recirculating needle wheel:
    1. Pump not performing (spinning) fast enough - clean pump
    2. Not enough Air being supplied - clogged air line or adjusted wrong. Hold you finger over the airline, is there much suction?
    Mind you these aren't the solutions to not much of a foam head, just bubble production. Thats all I can think of right now.
     
  8. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    Mine doesn't have an air tube/air line anywhere on the skimmer. And I can't find a place where one would be if it were missing. My pump has air vents on its side where it sucks up air I think. Also, the only adjustment I can make with the skimmer is through the 'out' pipes. Originally, the water would flow through the stand pipe and then there was a T and the water would flow to the right while another pipe continued going up vertically. This pipe had a 45 degree angle cut that I could turn to allow more or less water to flow through the T. I re-rigged this (and maybe I shouldn't have) so that the pipe with the 45 degree angle is now the main flow pipe. I can still adjust how much water flows into the T and therefore into my sump, but this pipe is a few inches longer than the original standpipe, therefore making my water level a few inches higher inside my main cylinder. Could this be my problem?
     
  9. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Cut the stand pipe down to the origanal hight would fix the water level but i'm not sure if this would effect the air intake. The pvc coralvue uses on these skimmers is british standard so it is hard to get.
     
  10. jtesdall

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  11. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    That is very similar. The cylinder n cup are exactly like that but my pump is off the ground, connected to the cylinder by the piping. Im going to try cutting the standpipe as soon as I can get my dads saw. Hopefully that will help. Tried Gereds suggestion n might be a little better now
     
  12. jtesdall

    jtesdall Expert Reefkeeper

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    Is this skimmer in sump?
    Does the pump go under the water? If not was it designed to have the pump up in the air or did someone modify it? You may have answered this below.
    You need to figure out how it draws air. I have never seen a needle wheel or venturi skimmer that did not have an obvious air intake tube of some sort. And almost all have them adjustable.
    Lowering the stand pipe can reduce back pressure which can help bubble production so maybe. It can also cause problems in in correct water level, so be careful. But I am leaning towards something is missing in this equation or has been modified.
    Instead of cutting the output pipe, why not put it back the way it was? Maybe you said it was glued??
    I am familiar with the output of the Octopus and the 45, it has seemed to work good for me.
     
  13. Gered

    Gered Experienced Reefkeeper

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    The older model of these skimmers did have the recirculating pump on the side like that from what I remember. I have the model that Joel linked to. I would think all of these should have an air intake tube.
     
  14. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Here is the one I have I asume yours is like this but with only one recirc pump?
    http://www.aquacave.com/reef-octopu...-1321.html
    You can see the air hose on the side there should be one on yours that runs from the recirc pump to a silencer on the side of the skimmer? These skimmers don't have any air ajustment Joel at lest not the two octo skimmers I have don't.
     
  15. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    Yes thats exactly it without the left pump. I just can't seem to find anyplace where an air tube would connect to it. It must be a piece the previous owner took off for some reason. Is that something that I should try to get? I'm going to try adjusting the pipe lengths this weekend when I get out to my dad's workshop also.

    This just really sucks because I am THIS close to finally getting rid of those nasty dinoflagellates and I bet what my skimmer could suck up would be just enough to get rid of them forever. But too long without my skimmer and I bet it'll start all over again. UGH!
     
  16. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Yea that sucks. I would cut down on feeding for now so the dinos don't get the best of yea. The bottum piece that conects the recirc pump to te body of the skimmer should have a little nub that the air hose goes on?
     
  17. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    Yep! I don't know why I missed it before, but I found the nub and put an airtube and an extra silencer I had laying around on it. No change though. Maybe my water level is too high for the microbubbles to reach the surface and make a foam head??
     
  18. B-Rad

    B-Rad Inactive User

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    Kylie make sure that the nub is clean, pull the air line back off and try running a pipe cleaner thought the nub ( they tend to build up with salt creep and calcium and can become plugged not letting air into the pump). This should become part of your monthly cleaning regiment!
     
  19. Kylie

    Kylie Inactive User

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    Sounds good. I'll try that /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif
     
  20. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Did cleaning the air intake work?
     

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