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Some Man Made Dry Rock

Discussion in 'Buy/Sell/Trade' started by Bela, Jul 17, 2010.

  1. Bela

    Bela Inactive User

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    So I still haven't found a buyer for the tank, which is THIS THREAD
     
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  2. Bela

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    Here is a quick pic I took of the rock in my 70g rubbermiad stock tank. It looks like I actually have more like 3 large pieces, not just two.

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  3. Waverz

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    I have made rock like this before and the batch that looked similar to yours actually got soft over time and crumbled up into little pieces.

    You might want to keep an eye on it.
     
  4. Bela

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    what was the recipe you used? I've never read of this happening to anyone, really.
     
  5. Matt

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    hmm I need rock for a new project. Can you get me some pictures of this stuff spread out a bit to see the pieces.
     
  6. Waverz

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    I'm not 100% sure on the recipe i know it was a mixture of sand, cement, and oyster shell. At the time it seemed like it was going to work out great because it was super light and porous but after a few years broke down into pieces.

    I think the problem is the oyster shell. Perhaps it breaks down and weakens the rock? We ended up doing a second batch w/o the oyster shell, it was heavier but didn't crumble apart like the oystershell stuff did.

    Who knows, maybe yours is different but it looks very similar to the rock we ended up with here.
     
  7. Bela

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    For this, all I used was the oyster shell and type II portland cement.
     
  8. Bluefool

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    What ratio bela? I've got portland cement and oyster shells stacked up in the garage, and I'm finding lots of recipes. What worked for you?
     
  9. Bela

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    I did a 3:1 oyster shell to cement mixture. I made it in very small barches at a time adding water super slowly because apparently it is easy to overdose the water. I used an old 22oz. (650 mL) cup. Three cups oyster shell, one cup type II portland cement, and about 500mL of water poured in slowly while mixing. I would mix about two of those batches to go into each "rock". My understanding is the curing process is really important (I have bever worked with cement prior to this so I just did what I was told). Need to let it fully dry/harden slowly. I just laid a moist old towel on top (I read to use burlap but I didn't have that) and let it dry out. I did this in the middle of winter inside, so there wasn't much of a risk of it drying out all that fast. After it hardened fully (I was able to make about a rock a day with my setup since I only had one mold - a tub filled with wet sand), which I allowed about two weeks for the "youngest" rock and about three to four weeks for the "oldest", I put them in a tub of RO/DI water. That water jumped in pH fast. The longer you leave it in the more lye seeps out. When I let it sit for two weeks (went on vacation), it actually started to precipitate in the water. I would also add some muriatic acid from time to time just to cut down a bit on the costs of water changes. A splash of that in about 70g of water would drop the pH enough for about 48 hours. It would probably end up being cheaper in the long run (and if not cheaper, just a hell of a lot more convenient), to do that for maybe two to three weeks initially and then change the water. Once your water's pH is no longer effected by the rock soaking in it (I allowed 24 hours), you are good to start seeing with life in your tank.
     
  10. Bela

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    I will try and find the thread where I got this recipe on RC. It's been a while since I posted in that thread, and I should probably get some pics of the aquascaping up there to show off my hard work. FWIW I believe the recipe was recommended by a guy who makes coral sculputers for a living for large public aquariums. He says the initial curing process is key. Again, the cement on bought specifically for making this rock was my first ever experience even using cement, so I just followed what the "experts" said to a "T" LOL
     
  11. Tony L.

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    Hey Bela. I would be happy to take some off your hands. I really only need about 20lbs. I would be willing to trade you some live rock - however I only have a couple big pieces so the stuff I have to trade is smaller (1-3lbs per piece) and I have aptasia. I can try to kill whatever is on the rock that I would trade you but obviously I can't guarentee that they won't grow back.

    I live in Altoona so it wouldn't be too hard to pick it up. My schedule is pretty open this week - let me know if you're interested in trading. I'm of course open to trading cash instead of rock as well
     

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