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starting a reef tank

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by 3vil, Nov 25, 2013.

  1. 3vil

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    I am new to reef aquariums and wanted to know what i need to start a reef. I have 100 dollars right now and i work so money isn't a problem it's just I'm left with 100 after lending my mother and girlfriend money. Things i want to know is how much does it cost to run a saltwater aquarium weekly. Luke food and chemicals ect. And mainly what do i need. I have done some research but I'd rather hear it all from one person than to go around from site to site and compile mix match information together. Anyways my name is Joseph (Jojo is my nickname parents called me it since I was little so everyone calls me it.) Anyways I hope this forum is helpful as what it seems. Thanks/DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/smile.gif
     
  2. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

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    Weekly cost will vary with tank size, and your maintenance routine. You can spend very little every week, or $100+ a week on a large reef tank wouldn't be hard to do at all. I would guess with salt, food, electricity, water, all things for the daily running and maintenance of my tank I am over $100/month to run my reef. Add the cost of adding equipment, fish, coral, and it can be expensive. But it definitely can be done on a much tighter budget.
     
  3. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

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    Start with figuring out what your budget is, then build the tank and equipment to fit that.
     
  4. 3vil

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    My weekly budget is around $200 to $230
     
  5. Jamie

    Jamie Well-Known ReefKeeper Vendor

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    Wow, so your going to budget over $800 a month for a reef tank GO BIG!!!
     
  6. 3vil

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    I would but getting the initial start up money is hard. It would take me months to go "big" I wanna go with a 30g long with the best equipment. You know?
     
  7. Jamie

    Jamie Well-Known ReefKeeper Vendor

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    First rule of reef keeping, nothing goes fast.....except money. You will need lots of patience to really enjoy the hobby. Generally the bigger the tank the easier it is to maintain. Dilution is the solution to pollution here. If you can afford to spend $800 a month to maintain a tank I would definitely go bigger than a 30 gallon.
     
  8. 3vil

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    I understand that part but I have 100 dollars to my name atm and I don't have room for a huge tank. I like the dimensions of a 30g long. You know what I mean, jamie?..
     
  9. jazzybio13 MBI Breeder

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    joseph... my very first reef was a 30g... it is not easy, but do-able... the best way to ok with a small tank is an over efficient skimmer, regular water changes, low feed amounts, COMPLETE bioload (including a efficient nutrient cycling) and patience.

    Practically speaking- great skimmer (wait to invest if you have to, water changes can fix the lack of this), nice size water changes.... a deep sand bed (for hosting beneficial bacteria completely) , few fish, few corals, and time. Invest when you can LATER... go slow now. wait for deals.

    I run a 14g right now, with a flourishing reef... just fine. BE PATIENT is the best #1 advice.
     
  10. 3vil

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    Hmm. Jamie I have taken advice from you. Lol. Is 75 gallons good enough because I want to do a build exactly like this http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2234507. I like the stand and the cubicle and shallow dimension of this tank. Anyone know what he used to build the stand other than 2×4's ? Any advice would be appreciated. I want to do this exact build, so please help me achieve it with your knowledge and thoughts
     
  11. Jamie

    Jamie Well-Known ReefKeeper Vendor

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    I guess I'm just a little confused about your budget then, if you only have about $100 I would try to find a used setup $100 won't do much if your looking at new equipment or save a few hunderd and get 29 biocube or nano cube they make good starter tanks.
     
  12. Jamie

    Jamie Well-Known ReefKeeper Vendor

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    FYI that setup you see there on RC has over $3,000 in equipment alone.
     
  13. 3vil

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    I'm confusing myself. At this exact moment I have 100 dollars. My budget is around 200 a week. Patience is the key to this right? Well I have patience. I need to word my post better. I want the make the same stand and aquarium. I have the skills to make it I just don't know exactly every thing I would need for the aquarium. But say I do have the money for this what is the materials you think he used for the stand other than the 2×4's
     
  14. beckerj3 Expert Reefkeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    I've got a 75 gallon tank. Its a nice size to maintain (although I'd like a bigger one - I don't have a good space for a larger one). One of the advantages of a larger tank (say 75 gal over a 30 gal) is that (IMO) it is easier to maintain stable water chemistry which is a very important aspect for a successful system.


    Secondly, if you do get hooked on this hobby you will WANT a larger system, but maybe the 75 gal will satifsy you for longer than a 30 gal tank will.


    If you only have $100, I'd recommend that you plan for a larger system, and use the $200/week that you have toward gradually picking up the components that you need/want. It may be a couple months before you have everything, but I think you would be happier going that route than diving in and getting something that is so-so.


    Unless you buy cycled live rock, it will take a few weeks or longer for the rock to cycle. You could also consider buying your live rock initially, putting it in a rubbermaid container with salt water, heater, and circulation pump. Let it take the tine it needs to cycle while you accumulate extra $'s and buy the other equipment.
     
  15. 3vil

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    That's exactly what I want to do. Also do you think that the guy used mdf board to make the stand?
     
  16. BigB

    BigB Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Go over to Coral Haven in Bettendorf and talk to the guys there. They will tell ya what you need to do and what to expect. They are awesome guys and will help you with any question that you may have.
     
  17. Lee

    Lee Experienced Reefkeeper

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    The pics sure look like MDF but I'm wondering if he laminated it some how? I surely would not paint MDF to use as an aquarium stand. You will splash/drip water on it from working in the tank and MDF does not hold up well with water.
     
  18. 3vil

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    He used some kind of sealant I believe.
     
  19. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    Joseph!

    Building that stand would be easy. He used 2x4 and MDF for top and sides if my memory serves me correctly. The cost of building it would b more then or just at 100.00 dollars. I know this because I build stands a lot and just in the 2x4 you would have 60 bucks or so.


    Its a good goal to have and I would do the best you can to get what you want. The tank on the other had will cost you more then 100.00 for sure new. Maybe used you could find one for 1/2 the price of new. His total build looked to have cost 3 to 4 grand! I have 6k into my 220rr and its a budget tank. I started with a nice 29gal build and say that you can start small with no problems if you keep your noise to the grind stone and start out with some good seasoned live rock.


    Here is what you need:

    Tank & stand


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    I used a HOB skimmer and put some bags of Chemi pur in the out put back into tank to keep water filtered.


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    Lighting I used a T5 I bought from Ebay


    [​IMG]http://www.ebay.com/itm/T5-Quad-36-Timer-Aquarium-Light-Strip-Marine-Reef-Coral-Cichlid-156W-LED-Fan-HO-/300968577124?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4613200864





    A good heater and buy some live rock from a member on here if you can and pick up some sand if you want too. You can buy the live sand and its even better starting up your tank.


    You will end up with a great looking set up like this


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  20. 3vil

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    Kpotter thanks for the information. Also I'm not sure if you posted that and didn't finish but you said here's what you need tank & stand. But I don't have a problem buying the equipment over a period of time. I just can't wait till I get the materials for this stand!! I can already tell this is going to be a great hobby. Just quite expensive. Lol. Anyways what are those clips he uses to keep the side and front panels in place. Also 220 gallons?? That's crazy!!! /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/smile.gif
     

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