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Submersible Pumps vs External Pumps - Pros vs. Cons

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by AJ, Apr 7, 2010.

  1. AJ

    AJ Inactive User

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    Hey everyone,
    I was recently asked the pros and cons of submersible pumps vs. external pumps.  I figured this would make a great wiki article, so I wanted to get everyone involved to give feedback.  Here's a really brief list of bullets for pros and cons, please reply with more!
    --AJ
    Submersible
    Pros - Don't have to worry about leaks in plumbing near the pump; it's in your sump
    Pros - Heats the water, you need fewer heaters
    Pros - Don't have to worry about drilling and installing bulkheads in your sump
    Cons - Heats the water.  If you always run close to the max temp when your lights are on, this could cause issues.  It also gives you less control of your tank temp
    External
    Pros - Does not heat the water nearly as much
    Pros - You can get larger, more powerful pumps that consume less electricity reducing your operating expenses
    Cons - You have to worry about doing more plumbing - making sure that it doesn't leak, cost of parts, etc.
     
  2. Gered

    Gered Experienced Reefkeeper

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    External Con: Takes up extra space specially if you have everything in a stand and also sometimes there is a noise factor when you go external
     
  3. ninjazx777 Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Submersible con doesn't last as long as an external pump
     
  4. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper

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    Posted By ninjazx777 on 04/07/2010 07:55 PM
    Submersible con doesn't last as long as an external pump
    Don't think I agree with this one. I have a rio 2500 that has been running for 10 years straight.
     
  5. F.D. Reefer Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    +1 to fishbrain. I also have a rio 2500 6yrs old still good as new!
     
  6. Matt

    Matt Inactive User

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    Also isnt a con for extrenal is they are easily rebuildable?
     
  7. Matt

    Matt Inactive User

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    Also isnt a pro for extrenal is they are easily rebuildable? and vica versa for submersiable.
     
  8. Shaun

    Shaun Inactive User

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    It comes down to what you need. Space, heat and energy consumption are good points to look at. I have had external pumps and the main reason I will not use one again is when power flickers or goes out for a while the pump needs to be reprimed most of the tim and I had a short power outage while at work so my sump was out of the loop for 11 hours so that meant no skimmer, no heater and reduced flow. I have never had any problems with in sump pumps and will use them until I cant do this anymore. If you have the spae, and a way to auto prime your pump then go for external. Otherwise go for internal. Shaun
     
  9. ruggerkc Experienced Reefkeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    I like external pumps. I have an Iwaki I have had for 10 years. I bought a used gorman rupp that I think is pushing 20. I have thrown at least 3 rios away. I did have a Mag drive 500 in a pond that lasted a long time.
     
  10. fmsill Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    external pump all the way, as long as the pump is below the the water line of your sump loosing the prime isnt a issue. i also like extrnal pumps for the fact they dont heat the water near as much. one last point is you dont have to worry abought stray voltage being fed into your tank. if you have a fray in the cord of a internal pump or a problem with the pump you can kill your fish. i love my blueline return pump which is made by the former engineer of iwaki. i will never go back to a internal pump if possible.
     
  11. slovan

    slovan Experienced Reefkeeper

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    It all depends on the application. Typically people have tanks that are 120 gallons and smaller. That being said, they are usually around 4ft long so there isn't a lot of room to work with if you want to keep everything inside the stand. If you have a large tank, it makes perfect sense to go with an external pump.

    Another thing to keep in mind is price. Internal pumps are usually priced lower than external pumps.
     

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