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Suggestions for an ATO

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by jeremy, Oct 8, 2014.

  1. jeremy Acro Addict

    Davenport, IA
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    Ok I currently have a tsunami ato but water level has to drop over an inch in my sump and since I now have a 6 foot long 70 gallon stock tank sump it's over 5 gallons every time it tops off. I am looking for something that has a tighter tolerance. Like maybe 1/4 inch or so. A few that I have looked at are Elos, Avast Marine, a day Tunze.
    Anyone ever use any of these good or bad or any other suggestions welcome.
     
  2. hart

    hart Well-Known ReefKeeper

    730
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    After doing research I went with the tunze. I think it's the best, I have a jbj, works fine in my nano, my 2nd one sucked and put 89g on my floor.
     
  3. Roman Experienced Reefkeeper

    Cedar Rapids, IA
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    That was quick decision. I have the avast marine with the peristaltic pump and has been trouble free.Pumps to my tank from my basement over 25 feet without any troubles at all.
     
  4. Roman Experienced Reefkeeper

    Cedar Rapids, IA
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    I just recently purchased a spectrapure one that works on the same type of principal. Haven't got around to hooking it up. Heard good review so I thought I would try it.
     
  5. jeremy Acro Addict

    Davenport, IA
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    How long have you had the avast marine? I like the price better than the tunze.
     
  6. Roman Experienced Reefkeeper

    Cedar Rapids, IA
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    Over a year. Trouble free. Set it and forget it.
     
  7. jeremy Acro Addict

    Davenport, IA
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    Cool I will probably go with that one. Thanks. I read some reviews on the the tunze and some said the pump quit working after a year. For $200 I would expect more.
    The avast marine looks similar to the tsunami and I like the tsunami but 1 inch in level fluxuation is too much with the setup I have now.
     
  8. hart

    hart Well-Known ReefKeeper

    730
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    I spent even more than that on the tunze as I got the outlet adaptor and use the avast diaphragm pump. That avast pump rocks! i spent extra on the tunze because I like the optical sensor and not a float. After having 90g on the floor I went big. I think avast is good stuff though.
     
  9. jeremy Acro Addict

    Davenport, IA
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    If I am looking at the avast right the float is only the emergency shut off. I like the looks of both. But the price on the avast looks good. But if the tunze is worth the extra and way better I could go that way instead. I don't want a bunch of water on my floor. So I guess I better think on it some more.
     
  10. hart

    hart Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    You are right, avast uses a pressure sensor for the main level, float for the high shutoff. Tunze has optical sensor for the main, also float for high shut off. I think they are both good. The tunze just has more feedback and I know a few people with them so I went with that. I think the optical sensor is more robust, pressure sensor can get plugged easier, trade off is cost.
     
  11. hart

    hart Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Like I said I spent even more to get the switch outlet to run the avast pump. I also put another float valve even higher up from auto topoff dot com to shut that outlet off if both sensors fail!
     
  12. vikubz Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    autotopoff.com
     
  13. Roman Experienced Reefkeeper

    Cedar Rapids, IA
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    Even if the pressure tube gets plugged the top off will not work because it reads pressure drops to turn on. If it is plugged there will be no drop in pressure for it to turn on.
     
  14. hart

    hart Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Unless it somehow gets plugged when the ATO is turned on, like something crawling in, but the high water float should turn it off. If plugged when low and it doesn't turn on it's not as bad, but could still burn up a pump. Like I said it's a fine ato, I just think the tunze is a little better, but that comes with more cost.
     
  15. hart

    hart Well-Known ReefKeeper

    730
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    Keep in mind a pressure sensor is still a mechanical sensor, it is a piston in a tube and the pressure sensor monitors the rise and fall of the piston. It's better than most mechanical devices since it is sealed, but at the heart it is still one.
     
  16. GoodGreef Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    If you go with the Tunze be sure to jiggle around the shutoff float every couple weeks because I've found that mineral buildup from spray can cause it to stick down. I have the 3155 version and really like it. I got it at about a 50% discount last black friday off of Bulk Reef Supply.
     
  17. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

    La Porte City, IA
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    Honestly, I think it is hard to beat a good old float valve myself.
     
  18. Bud Loves Bacon Website Team Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member Vendor

    West Des Moines, IA
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    I use the ones from sutotopoff.com and they work great. I got the one with the backup high-level float, and the run-dry float that goes in the ATO bucket. Also I got the extra long wire leads but you have to be very specific about which ones you want long and if you want them separate, the guy at autotopoff.com can make them however you specify and he is great to work with. I just use a Tom top off pump, they are great. autotopoff also carrys top off pumps
     
  19. Bud Loves Bacon Website Team Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member Vendor

    West Des Moines, IA
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    +1,818 / 14 / -0
    double float switch http://autotopoff.com/products/DT1/
    looks like they added bottom caps to prevent buddies from getting into the float, IMO this is not needed because you have to clean off the floats every once in a while because tube worms get in there no matter what you do

    run-dry upgrade is on this page http://autotopoff.com/custom/

    as well as the extensions. Like I said it helps to e-mail him directly so he knows how to configure the extensions. For instance, I have the switches at one end of the sump and the ATO bucket at the other end. So I only needed the run-dry leads to be extended.
     
  20. hart

    hart Well-Known ReefKeeper

    730
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    I am not saying float values can't work great for years, but in my personal experience I have had 2 float valves fail from JBJ (both at the same time and that flooded my room) and 1 autotopoff.com fail too. Just putting it out there.
     

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