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Sulfer in phosban reactor?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by aleciadooley, Mar 26, 2014.

  1. aleciadooley

    aleciadooley

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    I am looking into a phosban reactor and previously was looking @ a denitrifier. I came across this link: http://www.fishchannel.com/saltwater-aquariums/aquarium-care/sulfur-reactor.aspx I was hoping to get some opinions.


    I have a 75g, 2 clowfish and hope to add more. Some softies will eventually be added once I feel I have things under control. I have 3 800 powerheads as well as 3 400 powerheads-A lot of flow I know. I also have an emporer 300 HOB filter that is using carbon which I will turn into a cheato farm once I run out of filters. On top of that I have a mag 5 in my preskimmer.


    My lights are way under par. I only have 2 65W bubs and I had 50/50's in there before but I put 10K's in (ordered the wrong 1's) and cyano on the sandbed reared it's ugly head. So back to the old bulbs until I order new. (the decision to be made is: do I put 2 65w all blues in and add an external source of 10K or do things the opposite way and leave 10K in existing light and buy some blue leds to round things out). I looked into getting a larger version of existing light for a total of 260 watts but that just means double the heat.


    So...with all that said...I have updated my circuit board or power strip multiple times and made various modifications to my aquarium stand. I have 3 more outlets on my powerstrip. I am trying NOT to use them all up. I would like an easier way to remove nitrates and possibly phosphates but I was wondering if I might be able to put two reactors inline. Most likely the sulfer first then the phos as I read that the sulfur will take a LONG time to need to be changed where the phos will be quick. Looks like I may need a container of crushed coral in the middle (which will need to be replaced as well).


    Any opinions on the sulfer? Experience? Any opinions on the therory of doing them inline?


    Any help is appreciated...


    THX in advance.
     
  2. areefoffaith

    areefoffaith Inactive User

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    you could run the 10 k for shorter time and run actinic blue for the longest time say 6 hours white and 9 hours blue i use the blue for dusk and dawn lighting. i have been using a sulphur reactor for some time now combined with carbon dosing daily there are online instructions for both the drip rate i have ended up with is a bit more than one drop per second. i am using a old calcium reactor for the sulphur and a second reactor for the aragonite to clean water before it goes into sump. make sure these reactors are clear and dont let the sulphur get to low i inspect each day to be sure everything is in working order with these i also use a phos reactor even though i dose carbon ......vodka for added assurance the phos stays low
     
  3. beckerj3 Expert Reefkeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    First off, you mentioned nothing about water parameters. Are you testing for nitrates and phosphates (calcium, alk.....)? It is good that you are thinking ahead, but unless you know what the levels are for nitrates and phosphates, I wouldn't get worried yet - unless you have alot of algae growth. With only two fish, you shouldn't have much of a build of on those yet unless you are way overfeeding and not doing regular water changes.


    Lights - a 2 bulb fixture is fine for the fish. You might get away with a few sofites, but definitely not beyond that until you get more light.


    Flow - plenty of flow for what you have now.


    My tank is a 75 gal also with sump. I started with 2 bulbs (Compact florescent) - and within probably a year went to a 4 bulb fixture (compact florescent). When I got the 4 bulb fixture I started adding some zoas and softies. After a couple years I wanted LPS and SPS and moved to a 6 bulb T5 fixture. T5, LED, MH - lot of choices on lights. The 6 bulb T5 has been very good to me - I get lots of growth and good coloration and don't have the heat problems associated with MH. It wasn't a high end T5 fixture (I think I only paid @ $250 for it). I've had it 5-6 years now and can grow anything I want.


    I use a phosban reactor for GFO and a phosban reactor for Carbon. Except for one brief period, I've never had a big problem with nitrates and phosphates.



     
  4. areefoffaith

    areefoffaith Inactive User

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    testing the nitrates, phosphates, salinity, calcium and alk. are what i target you can test the sulphur reactor every couple of days for nitrates until they read 0 the phosphates are checked weekly unless they are climbing then more often until under control. you want to run system in a bulletproof manner so less chance of a spike. the vodka dosing chart is on reef central called in the trenches articles on vodka dosing you should be able to find information on vodka dosing just search and learn all you can about carbon dosing some people prefer using bio pellets to vodka but is basically the same thing. been reefing now for 22 years in may and never have i had so nice success than when combining ....... vodka this needs to be run in conjunction with the best skimmer to be found in my experience is a reef octopus a sulphur reactor which further insures the nitrates be brought down to 0 and a phosphate reactor using po4x4 that is renewable further insuring the phosphates are brought down to near 0 levels natural seawater has some very low levels of phosphate and if brought to a true 0 will do harm to corals. i cant stress enough that during these years of reefing there have been many mistakes and losses of marine life that were due to lack of knowledge learn all you can and dont get in a hurry nothing good happens in a reef fast.
     
  5. areefoffaith

    areefoffaith Inactive User

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  6. aleciadooley

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    Aree...


    Can't seem to find the in the trenches on the reef central site-no biggy I'll do my research.


    To be clear, reef octopus, the best skimmer out there? I have a Ramora Pro with pre skim, I use it with a mag 5 and have been thinking about putting on a new powerhead. Any idea on how to find out how many gph the ramora can take? What is your opinion on the ramora? It enhances oxygen in the water-I can tell that.


    Good to know on the phosphates being low not 0.


    Also I hear you on the hurrying part, unfortunately I only really get into the tank once or twice a year. If I could get it to where it is very close to minimal issues I think I would enjoy it more and add more fish and inverts too! I am told the more the merrier like the bigger the tank the easier it is to keep steady.


    Far as reactors. I "could" do a carbon (cleans the water), but not really on top of my list. The vodka (removes nitrates) has been in the back of my mind for some time. I just read up on the sulfur (removes nitrates as well) and that sounds good too. The phosban (removes phosphates) is also an option. Did I get all of those uses correct?


    My question is there any way to do all those reactors inline with each other? Could I hook up a powerhead to feed water through them all inline with each other or would one or any after another be obsolete/useless?
     
  7. beckerj3 Expert Reefkeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    I started with the AquaC Urchin Pro in the sump of my 75 gallon tank - with a mag 3 pump. Never did pull out that much stuff. I even tried it with a mag 5 for a while. Not much difference. Switched to a Reef Octopus. Love it by comparison. Pulls out much more than the other one ever did. I would definitely recommend a Reef Octopus.
     
  8. aleciadooley

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    Reef octopus huh? I don't get any if much skimate with the Remora Pro but thought that was due to not having much of a bio load in the aquarium. I love the preskim box. I have never been able to get dry skim. I have a ton of LR, do not over feed, if anything I under feed. You think that no skim is due to the skimmer, not the bio load?


    I can tell the ramora puts out tiny bubbles which can be a pain but I think it oxygenates the water/that is a plus. Opinion?
     
  9. beckerj3 Expert Reefkeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    Could be both. But when I made the change, I probably immediately had twice as much skim and my bioload was not doubled at the same time (nor did I suddenly feed twice as much).
     
  10. areefoffaith

    areefoffaith Inactive User

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    im not saying octopus is the best but i have tried several skimmers and like this one the best there are lots of models of octopus skimmers and other brands this design , reef octopus diablo seems to work for my system thats all just ones opinion .
     

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