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Water change with Apex?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by dead fish, Jan 14, 2013.

  1. dead fish Dead Fish

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    I know you can do auto water change with the Apex, but I'd just like to program it to turn everything off when I want to change and then turn back on at another button push. Anyone done anything like this?
     
  2. Lee

    Lee Experienced Reefkeeper

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    I think all you need to do is program one of your feed cycles so your pumps, skimmers, returns, heaters, etc. turn off during one of your feeds.
     
  3. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    Yes I agree. Use the feed cycle to set up water change time. It has a timer for the feed cycle so remember to look at that too. I have feedA set up to turn off my skimmer during feeding and I am going to do the same with my return pump soon. So I just press down arrow to feedA and it turns them off for like 5 minutes.


    Remember that when you turn your pump off that water is over your skimmer hight normally so I am going to have to delay my skimmer coming on when I add the pump to the feedA cycle for feeding.


    Great little device I tell you..


    Kp
     
  4. dead fish Dead Fish

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    I have the pumps including skimmer hooked up to the feed cycles. The pumps are of for 5 minutes, the skimmer and power heads come on a couple minutes later. so I'd I just make one feedcycle longer that should do it?
     
  5. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

    Cedar Rapids, IA
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    Feed cycles would be easiest for what you have right now.

    You can also add a break out box and hook up some buttons/switches to that for doing what you want.
     
  6. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    Ok I have a follow up question! Does the 005 on the FeedA 005 then off mean the minutes to stay off? So if I set the Skimmer to 007 and the Pump to 005 is that correct?



    So my returnpump set like this:


    Fallback ON

    Set ON

    If FeedA 005 Then OFF


    My Skimmer set:


    Fallback ON

    Set ON

    If FeedA 007 Then OFF


    This right? anyone!


    Sorry Jason, but I figure will would not mind! /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/smile.gif
     
  7. Lee

    Lee Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Kyle - That was my understanding of how it works. But I don't think it works if you cancel the feed cycle early..
     
  8. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    Yeah I bet your right Lee. I will have to read up on that. I added my program to the above post. let me know
     
  9. Waverz

    Waverz Expert Reefkeeper

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    FeedA 005 will do whatever interval you have feedA set to plus an additional 5 minutes
     
  10. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

    Cedar Rapids, IA
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    To get the skimmer to stay off when the feed cycle is cancel you need a defer statement I believe. My code works, keeping the skimmer off is the feed mode is canceled, just can't remember what part of the code I added to make it stay off.

    Return pump program
    Fallback ON
    Set ON
    If FeedA 000 Then OFF

    Skimmer program
    Fallback OFF
    Set ON
    If Outlet Return = OFF Then OFF
    If FeedA 005 Then OFF
    If Power Apex Off 005 Then OFF
    If Power EB8_4 Off 005 Then OFF
    Defer 002:00 Then ON
     
  11. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

    North liberty, IA
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    OK so when reading the manual I am little confused. I understand now that the 005 is just additional time after you activate the feed cycle. Saying that means that you set how long the feed cycle last with the 000 statement. If you state 010 then it will last 10 minutes after I activate the feed cycle right?


    This is what I read and what I understand it to say. Here is a statement from the Manual: What that means is that "if Feed cycle A is active and for 000 minutes after it's ended, this outlet is OFF"


    So activating the feed cycle is just that. You push button and its activeated. Then you set the 000 to the amount of time you want it to last?


    So what is the Feed cycle duration? Is this preset?


    KP
     
  12. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

    North liberty, IA
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    Never mind! I found it under Apex Mic setup! Mine is set for 5 minutes for each cycle. I have to set the skimmer to delay for 002 minutes I think that would do! I didn't read that in the manual at all in the feed cycle section. I am going to go back and read again. /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/smile.gif


    Thanks everyone!


    KP


    Sorry to Hijack your thread Jason! lol

     
  13. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

    North liberty, IA
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    OK why do you have it fallback to OFF in the skimmer Program? Its my understanding that the fallback statement is what you want it to do if communication is lost with base. What is your Outlet Return? Is that name of your return pump? I bet its the Defer 002:00 Then ON statement that I am looking for! I will keep reading and understanding.

    Thanks David!


    P.S I have added my MH lights,Atanic and Moon lights to my Apex. I also added one power head,return pump and skimmer now. I am at 3.6 amps...
     
  14. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

    Cedar Rapids, IA
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    Outlet return is the return pump. So anytime the return pump is off the skimmer will turn off.
    Yes you are correct on the fallback statement. If communication is lost the outlet will go to the OFF state.

     
  15. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

    North liberty, IA
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    I like it David I will have to try that.

    Thanks
     

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